Most people on this thread? Big surprise, I am a gay woman fighting against bigots using religion to harm their kids and those of others.
These teachers are no way grooming anyone, that is a hysterical lie.
They SAW kids looking up LGBTQ stuff when in online learning and tried to help. Now, I might have made an announcement to the entire…
Most people on this thread? Big surprise, I am a gay woman fighting against bigots using religion to harm their kids and those of others.
These teachers are no way grooming anyone, that is a hysterical lie.
They SAW kids looking up LGBTQ stuff when in online learning and tried to help. Now, I might have made an announcement to the entire class vs to the one student, but they in no way are grooming anyone. You are a bunch of liars.
Yet you have no idea what the sexual preferences are of the commenters here, including me, just as you have no idea if any are cross-dressers (trans). You don't get a gold star for announcing you are gay. You do get lumps of coal for wanting to come between parents and children. Stay away from children.
I DON'T CARE what your sexual ORIENTATION (not preference, that shows you are ignorant and/or bigoted). And calling a trans person a cross dresser shows us all you would certainly damage a teen who ended up LGBTQ. And honey, you are WAY TOO LATE insisting I stay away from children, I donate and volunteer with homeless LGBTQ teens who's parents (people like you) threw them in the street. I will do more to help LGBTQ teens than you will ever help a single person other than yourself.
Ok…so right out of the gate I’ll state facts about myself just for you Proud Dem.
I am a straight/heterosexual man who is happily married to a straight/heterosexual woman and we have 2 sons through conception. We are religious (Christian) and attend church as do our boys.
With that out of the way, none of the above qualifies me or my family as bigots, just as you having your opinion doesn’t qualify you as anything other than you. We raise our kids to be accepting, supportive, and kind to ALL people they come into contact with. Our family has our own beliefs and convictions and we do our best to be good wholesome human beings. But, just because there are parents or families out there who are not involved with their children and have not established an open line of communication with their children, doesn’t give a group the right to speak on a subject to the entire population…especially when we’re referring to developmental minds of our youth. Some topics/subjects should be discussed within the family unit under the roof of said unit. I am in no way diminishing the journey of any child no matter their experiences. Should teachers recognize a student that seems to be experiencing difficulties, they should approach the parents and make them aware. It is then up to the parents to, well, parent! Unless there are signs of abuse/neglect, social development and orientation is not the job nor curriculum of the compulsory education system.
IF you are fighting to prevent trans teens from being able to go to the bathroom, preventing them from sports, or like in FL preventing teachers from even mentioning LGBTQ people you are a bigot. And your long post is just proof that you cannot defend your bigotry, but sure can make excuses and lie with abandon. Jesus would not approve.
In CA a teacher CANNOT OUT a student, so you are wrong. Also, if LGBTQ teens can face bigotry of parents and their kids like you, their lives CAN BE DISCUSSED in school, and you can get over the fact they exist and allow them equal treatment and access to school.
Hahaha, what does a long post have to do with anything? Try reading it and following the substance of the post!
Show me where I said I didn’t want a trans student to use the restroom or prevent them from sports? As a matter of fact, I never mentioned Trans/Gay/Questioning/Straight in my post, I simply referred to students! See that’s the difference between you and me…I see people as people no matter their race, religion, creed, or sexual orientation! You have to box everyone into categories to limit them. I simply wish for everyone to be treated with kindness and support.
I also never mentioned teachers outing students. I spoke on generalities with teachers having the opportunity to recognize if a student may be struggling with anything. The teacher should then make the students parent aware of their findings. It’s then the parents job to comfort and communicate with their child. It is not the compulsory education systems job to educate on such matters outside the parental purview.
Lastly, please show me where I stated LGBTQ students shouldn’t have equal treatment and access to school??? Pretty sure I said the opposite when stating my wife kids and I believe in treating everyone with kindness, support, and being accepting of all…if that’s a bigot then I guess I am hahaha.
Teachers shouldn’t be mentioning LGBTQ people in class, just like they shouldn’t be discussing sex and straight people either! They can mention LGBTQ people, but the sexual orientation of people should be left out of it! And don’t call me a bigot, because this goes for all orientations!!!
Lady, you are whacked up in the head. Just because we as a culture are not throwing people with deviant sexual proclivities and behavior off of tall buildings doesn’t mean that deviant isn’t deviant, I.e., not normal.
You people are grooming kids and in any healthy state, society, or community you would banished from any institutional contact with minors. My wife lived in San Diego in the 50’s, and moved when her father’s company transferred him to Pittsburgh ~ 1960. (I met her in High school when they moved to suburban Philadelphia in 1967) He repeatedly said that he was glad that they left California when they did, & that was 60 years ago! California culture has only gone downhill since then.
I realize that the alphabet soup is with us until the end of the age. We just don’t abide you all grooming our kids & throwing your deviancy in our or their faces.
Those teachers clearly stated that they were monitoring the children looking for recruits. This is exactly the strategy pedophiles use. They were recruiting and grooming plain and simple.
I understand the sentiment, but what we need is a better way to address the LGBTQ issue. Everyone has right to flourish, to come to their own conclusions, to make their own decision. Everybody's an individual with their own perceived needs. And as a parent I can say that passed a point outside influences most often have a greater impact on children than that of a parent, good or bad. It seems to me teachers have taken on too much responsibility in our society, when they actually shouldn't have. In my opinion, teachers and parents should work together, even though historically such endeavors have faced great obstacles on the part of teachers and parents alike. Teachers should not be trying to nurture a child's sexuality or even her political identity. That job belongs in part to the parent and in the end to the child himself.
Actually, 2 feet, even with what you describe and feel, studies show even now, that parents for good or ill have the strongest influence on their children. Furthermore, in any sane jurisdiction, he who pays the piper calls the tune. Legally it is the parent’s responsibility, duty, & right to raise their children. And only in the most extreme cases is removal of the child from the home warranted & wise. We know that gender dysphoria is transient 80-90% of the time (I don’t have figures for homosexuality, but I do know that is some unknown to me % of the time due to grooming, sexual abuse, etc. therefore not ‘natural’ or ‘born that way’ or inherited— think about that, how would an inherently sterile relationship pass down genes to offspring?)
I will probably be torn a new one when what’s her face reads this but IDCWST. She’s the deviant one & a clear and present danger to children and she needs to be kept TFA from children.
Suggestion: For the next two generations, at least, we raise our male and female children exactly alike -- same nutrition, exercise, dress, education, expectations, training, and assumptions. Make no mention of sex or gender *at all* until the children themselves bother to ask; then calmly state the biological facts with a no-big-deal attitude. If the children grow up thinking that sex/gender is no big deal, they won't see any particular advantage in being male or female and won't be attracted to the idea of changing gender.
People who actually have genetic gender anomalies are very, very few: maybe 0.5% of the population. Gays and bisexuals make up no more than 10% of the population, at best. Without sexual dimorphism taught by the culture, there wouldn't be any "movement" built around them.
You mean they spied on the kids' online searches, and "volunteered" to tell the kids all about "gender fluidity", whether the kids wanted to hear it or not. Seen it done, and it needs to be stopped.
This agenda exists in Canada too and the momentum is quite strong. I know teachers who would have no problem with subverting parental control because they the teachers think they know best and don't respect parents. They are not in partnership with parents, but their own identity politics and political leanings. If the agenda is to get children to develop their reading and critical thinking skills, well, that's their job. Their job should not be to recruit 6 graders with the idea of cultivating LGBTQers.
Things you can do: put a small recording spy-camera/microphone on an ornament in your kid's hair on top of his/her head, and download it to your computer as soon as the kid comes home from school Also, *ask* the kid what happened in school today. Also petition your state govt. to place motion-activated transmitting cameras/microphones in every school classroom in the state, and transmit the recordings to a secure archive which all citizens can view and copy but nobody can censor or delete. This will protect the students from Woke teachers, and the teachers from Woke students.
Also, investigate (with more spy-cameras/microphones) every *school of Education* in the country, and see what they're teaching the teachers.
No, I will not be told to shut up by some rando dude online. I will stop fighting against bigotry when you all learn how to get your own life and let others live their own.
I know a bunch of trans and gay and lesbian and even Bi people, I also know a bunch of bigots. I prefer the former. I have no trouble being a lesbian, thanks.
Do you think your tone and attacks on people have a positive influence in them changing their perspectives? If you think your making any positive change, you're not. You can look up the definition of bigot and look at how you post. Being antagonistic and aggressive is poor persuasion if that's your goal to change people's minds. Until you learn to deescalate and have a conversation with someone who is not exactly the same belief you are only causing more separation. In fact the behavior you are showing is exactly what you're apparently fighting against.
No, I think bigots and racists and the like RARELY EVER change their stripes. I am angry as hell and am not going to listen to lies and attempts to change laws that harm many quietly. I have no more patience, this is the 21st century, we have made such huge strides. But many are trying to erase all the strides, all the freedoms LGBTQ people have gained over the decades. I tried for years to convince my own parents out of their racism and bigotry, but they chose their views over their own kids. Parents toss their kids in the street today, and I cannot be calm about it anymore.
*Sigh* Madam, you're an idiot. I *am* bisexual, and never had any problem with it because my father, bless him, taught me at an early age (seven, IIRC) how to make a proper fist, how to throw a proper punch, how to do a proper hip-throw, and how to properly fight bullies (hint: make sure the teacher isn't looking). Those are the lessons that we should be teaching our kids, whatever their orientation is -- not some gooey teacher simpering that it's gooood to be decorative weaklings. Such teachers need to be tossed out in the street, even faster than any fool kids who believe them.
You claim children are complaining about socialism,Antifa and BLM being taught ins schools and call me an idiot? What a laugh, you honey, are INSANE and a right wing nutcase. I do not care if you sleep with men and women. You are a danger to our kids and democracy.
You call LGBTQ kids "decorative weaklings"? SHAME ON YOU YOU BIGOT. You will never win and get teachers fired, as you will be laughed right out of any meeting.
Heheheh. Silly twit. I grew up in a traditional Democrat family, which assumed that female children must be decorative weaklings -- an attitude I strongly disagreed with. What I see today is the Wokey-dokes like you trying to make *all* children into decorative weaklings -- the sort who throw howling tantrums whenever anybody disagrees with them. Such teachers need firing. So do you, dearie.
There’s a ton of empirical evidence out there suggesting what you and others who claim to be helping is actually harming/ damaging. Ironically the science doesn’t count when it doesn’t support the agenda or narrative.
Humm, no reply to your comment. I wonder why they didn’t enlighten you with data, statistics, peer reviewed journals or these so called “reputable” doctors? Maybe because there’s no reliable data to speak of and if there is data it’s from groups that are heavily biased.
Who said anything about religion? The only people pushing religion here are these teachers promoting gender mysticism. I’m an atheist, bi, been in a relationship with a woman, and I’d be furious if teachers like these tried to convince my kids they’re trans.
It’s tedious, but if you follow the line from my comment all the way to its terminus above, you’ll find the text to which I’m responding — to this from Kimiko:
“Most people on this thread? Big surprise, I am a gay woman fighting against bigots using religion to harm THEIR kids and those of others.”
Most people on this thread? Big surprise, I am a gay woman fighting against bigots using religion to harm their kids and those of others.
These teachers are no way grooming anyone, that is a hysterical lie.
They SAW kids looking up LGBTQ stuff when in online learning and tried to help. Now, I might have made an announcement to the entire class vs to the one student, but they in no way are grooming anyone. You are a bunch of liars.
Yet you have no idea what the sexual preferences are of the commenters here, including me, just as you have no idea if any are cross-dressers (trans). You don't get a gold star for announcing you are gay. You do get lumps of coal for wanting to come between parents and children. Stay away from children.
I DON'T CARE what your sexual ORIENTATION (not preference, that shows you are ignorant and/or bigoted). And calling a trans person a cross dresser shows us all you would certainly damage a teen who ended up LGBTQ. And honey, you are WAY TOO LATE insisting I stay away from children, I donate and volunteer with homeless LGBTQ teens who's parents (people like you) threw them in the street. I will do more to help LGBTQ teens than you will ever help a single person other than yourself.
Ok…so right out of the gate I’ll state facts about myself just for you Proud Dem.
I am a straight/heterosexual man who is happily married to a straight/heterosexual woman and we have 2 sons through conception. We are religious (Christian) and attend church as do our boys.
With that out of the way, none of the above qualifies me or my family as bigots, just as you having your opinion doesn’t qualify you as anything other than you. We raise our kids to be accepting, supportive, and kind to ALL people they come into contact with. Our family has our own beliefs and convictions and we do our best to be good wholesome human beings. But, just because there are parents or families out there who are not involved with their children and have not established an open line of communication with their children, doesn’t give a group the right to speak on a subject to the entire population…especially when we’re referring to developmental minds of our youth. Some topics/subjects should be discussed within the family unit under the roof of said unit. I am in no way diminishing the journey of any child no matter their experiences. Should teachers recognize a student that seems to be experiencing difficulties, they should approach the parents and make them aware. It is then up to the parents to, well, parent! Unless there are signs of abuse/neglect, social development and orientation is not the job nor curriculum of the compulsory education system.
IF you are fighting to prevent trans teens from being able to go to the bathroom, preventing them from sports, or like in FL preventing teachers from even mentioning LGBTQ people you are a bigot. And your long post is just proof that you cannot defend your bigotry, but sure can make excuses and lie with abandon. Jesus would not approve.
In CA a teacher CANNOT OUT a student, so you are wrong. Also, if LGBTQ teens can face bigotry of parents and their kids like you, their lives CAN BE DISCUSSED in school, and you can get over the fact they exist and allow them equal treatment and access to school.
Hahaha, what does a long post have to do with anything? Try reading it and following the substance of the post!
Show me where I said I didn’t want a trans student to use the restroom or prevent them from sports? As a matter of fact, I never mentioned Trans/Gay/Questioning/Straight in my post, I simply referred to students! See that’s the difference between you and me…I see people as people no matter their race, religion, creed, or sexual orientation! You have to box everyone into categories to limit them. I simply wish for everyone to be treated with kindness and support.
I also never mentioned teachers outing students. I spoke on generalities with teachers having the opportunity to recognize if a student may be struggling with anything. The teacher should then make the students parent aware of their findings. It’s then the parents job to comfort and communicate with their child. It is not the compulsory education systems job to educate on such matters outside the parental purview.
Lastly, please show me where I stated LGBTQ students shouldn’t have equal treatment and access to school??? Pretty sure I said the opposite when stating my wife kids and I believe in treating everyone with kindness, support, and being accepting of all…if that’s a bigot then I guess I am hahaha.
Teachers shouldn’t be mentioning LGBTQ people in class, just like they shouldn’t be discussing sex and straight people either! They can mention LGBTQ people, but the sexual orientation of people should be left out of it! And don’t call me a bigot, because this goes for all orientations!!!
Another rant that is full of bullshit.
Lady, you are whacked up in the head. Just because we as a culture are not throwing people with deviant sexual proclivities and behavior off of tall buildings doesn’t mean that deviant isn’t deviant, I.e., not normal.
You people are grooming kids and in any healthy state, society, or community you would banished from any institutional contact with minors. My wife lived in San Diego in the 50’s, and moved when her father’s company transferred him to Pittsburgh ~ 1960. (I met her in High school when they moved to suburban Philadelphia in 1967) He repeatedly said that he was glad that they left California when they did, & that was 60 years ago! California culture has only gone downhill since then.
Dem’s the facts,
Fuck off bigots. You will never get all LGBTQ+ people to disappear. We are here and will never let you fuck us over. GET USED TO US YOU FILTHY BIGOTS
I realize that the alphabet soup is with us until the end of the age. We just don’t abide you all grooming our kids & throwing your deviancy in our or their faces.
Calm your tits.
Those teachers clearly stated that they were monitoring the children looking for recruits. This is exactly the strategy pedophiles use. They were recruiting and grooming plain and simple.
I wonder if the US govt. could arrest the whole teachers' union for "conspiracy to commit child abuse" or even "child endangerment".
I understand the sentiment, but what we need is a better way to address the LGBTQ issue. Everyone has right to flourish, to come to their own conclusions, to make their own decision. Everybody's an individual with their own perceived needs. And as a parent I can say that passed a point outside influences most often have a greater impact on children than that of a parent, good or bad. It seems to me teachers have taken on too much responsibility in our society, when they actually shouldn't have. In my opinion, teachers and parents should work together, even though historically such endeavors have faced great obstacles on the part of teachers and parents alike. Teachers should not be trying to nurture a child's sexuality or even her political identity. That job belongs in part to the parent and in the end to the child himself.
Actually, 2 feet, even with what you describe and feel, studies show even now, that parents for good or ill have the strongest influence on their children. Furthermore, in any sane jurisdiction, he who pays the piper calls the tune. Legally it is the parent’s responsibility, duty, & right to raise their children. And only in the most extreme cases is removal of the child from the home warranted & wise. We know that gender dysphoria is transient 80-90% of the time (I don’t have figures for homosexuality, but I do know that is some unknown to me % of the time due to grooming, sexual abuse, etc. therefore not ‘natural’ or ‘born that way’ or inherited— think about that, how would an inherently sterile relationship pass down genes to offspring?)
I will probably be torn a new one when what’s her face reads this but IDCWST. She’s the deviant one & a clear and present danger to children and she needs to be kept TFA from children.
Suggestion: For the next two generations, at least, we raise our male and female children exactly alike -- same nutrition, exercise, dress, education, expectations, training, and assumptions. Make no mention of sex or gender *at all* until the children themselves bother to ask; then calmly state the biological facts with a no-big-deal attitude. If the children grow up thinking that sex/gender is no big deal, they won't see any particular advantage in being male or female and won't be attracted to the idea of changing gender.
AS IF that will make trans people disappear. You have no clue how this works.
People who actually have genetic gender anomalies are very, very few: maybe 0.5% of the population. Gays and bisexuals make up no more than 10% of the population, at best. Without sexual dimorphism taught by the culture, there wouldn't be any "movement" built around them.
You are truly a nut
I'll bet Alan Dershowitz could make a good case of it. Hmmm, where/how do we get in touch with him?
That is simply a lie
You mean they spied on the kids' online searches, and "volunteered" to tell the kids all about "gender fluidity", whether the kids wanted to hear it or not. Seen it done, and it needs to be stopped.
This agenda exists in Canada too and the momentum is quite strong. I know teachers who would have no problem with subverting parental control because they the teachers think they know best and don't respect parents. They are not in partnership with parents, but their own identity politics and political leanings. If the agenda is to get children to develop their reading and critical thinking skills, well, that's their job. Their job should not be to recruit 6 graders with the idea of cultivating LGBTQers.
Things you can do: put a small recording spy-camera/microphone on an ornament in your kid's hair on top of his/her head, and download it to your computer as soon as the kid comes home from school Also, *ask* the kid what happened in school today. Also petition your state govt. to place motion-activated transmitting cameras/microphones in every school classroom in the state, and transmit the recordings to a secure archive which all citizens can view and copy but nobody can censor or delete. This will protect the students from Woke teachers, and the teachers from Woke students.
Also, investigate (with more spy-cameras/microphones) every *school of Education* in the country, and see what they're teaching the teachers.
You constantly repeat the same bullshit. Be what you want but shut up.
No, I will not be told to shut up by some rando dude online. I will stop fighting against bigotry when you all learn how to get your own life and let others live their own.
Don't try to learn other how they have to live their life or educate their families. If you have trouble to be gay it is your problem.
I know a bunch of trans and gay and lesbian and even Bi people, I also know a bunch of bigots. I prefer the former. I have no trouble being a lesbian, thanks.
Do you think your tone and attacks on people have a positive influence in them changing their perspectives? If you think your making any positive change, you're not. You can look up the definition of bigot and look at how you post. Being antagonistic and aggressive is poor persuasion if that's your goal to change people's minds. Until you learn to deescalate and have a conversation with someone who is not exactly the same belief you are only causing more separation. In fact the behavior you are showing is exactly what you're apparently fighting against.
No, I think bigots and racists and the like RARELY EVER change their stripes. I am angry as hell and am not going to listen to lies and attempts to change laws that harm many quietly. I have no more patience, this is the 21st century, we have made such huge strides. But many are trying to erase all the strides, all the freedoms LGBTQ people have gained over the decades. I tried for years to convince my own parents out of their racism and bigotry, but they chose their views over their own kids. Parents toss their kids in the street today, and I cannot be calm about it anymore.
*Sigh* Madam, you're an idiot. I *am* bisexual, and never had any problem with it because my father, bless him, taught me at an early age (seven, IIRC) how to make a proper fist, how to throw a proper punch, how to do a proper hip-throw, and how to properly fight bullies (hint: make sure the teacher isn't looking). Those are the lessons that we should be teaching our kids, whatever their orientation is -- not some gooey teacher simpering that it's gooood to be decorative weaklings. Such teachers need to be tossed out in the street, even faster than any fool kids who believe them.
You claim children are complaining about socialism,Antifa and BLM being taught ins schools and call me an idiot? What a laugh, you honey, are INSANE and a right wing nutcase. I do not care if you sleep with men and women. You are a danger to our kids and democracy.
You call LGBTQ kids "decorative weaklings"? SHAME ON YOU YOU BIGOT. You will never win and get teachers fired, as you will be laughed right out of any meeting.
Heheheh. Silly twit. I grew up in a traditional Democrat family, which assumed that female children must be decorative weaklings -- an attitude I strongly disagreed with. What I see today is the Wokey-dokes like you trying to make *all* children into decorative weaklings -- the sort who throw howling tantrums whenever anybody disagrees with them. Such teachers need firing. So do you, dearie.
Go F yourself you right wing nutcase and don't bother to respond.
Do you have kids yourself?
You WILL have trouble if perversion promoters like you come close to our children.
Threats? Huey Long would roll over in his grave reading your vile comments.
Let him spin.
No problem? really? This isn't what i see when i read your multiple comments.
Another version of "I have black friends so I can't be racist."
WTF
I would advise you to stop.
I'd advise you to stop harming LGBTQ teens.
There’s a ton of empirical evidence out there suggesting what you and others who claim to be helping is actually harming/ damaging. Ironically the science doesn’t count when it doesn’t support the agenda or narrative.
BS your "science" is rejected by all reputable doctors in the field
"All *reputable* doctors"...? "In the field"? Which field would that be? Doctors who specialize in "gender reassignment" surgery, perhaps?
Humm, no reply to your comment. I wonder why they didn’t enlighten you with data, statistics, peer reviewed journals or these so called “reputable” doctors? Maybe because there’s no reliable data to speak of and if there is data it’s from groups that are heavily biased.
Okay groomer.
When you meet your maker she will tell you that you hurt many with your bigoted views, good luck getting through the pearly gates. LOL
You don’t believe in The Maker, or even a maker, so, I call BS.
But you do, and you are a filthy bigoted scumbag
I took a shower, brushed my teeth and used mouthwash before getting my teeth cleaned today.
You’re saving kids from harm by their parents’ religion?
What’s the source of your moral code; what elevates it above that of anyone else?
Who said anything about religion? The only people pushing religion here are these teachers promoting gender mysticism. I’m an atheist, bi, been in a relationship with a woman, and I’d be furious if teachers like these tried to convince my kids they’re trans.
It’s tedious, but if you follow the line from my comment all the way to its terminus above, you’ll find the text to which I’m responding — to this from Kimiko:
“Most people on this thread? Big surprise, I am a gay woman fighting against bigots using religion to harm THEIR kids and those of others.”
(I added the caps)