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Beeswax's avatar

As a lesbian who came out in 1971, I have absolutely no knowledge of any such campaigns. If it’s been public knowledge for decades, somehow I missed that memo, and trust me, I am not hiding under a rock. If that sort of nonsense was going on, it was doomed to fail in any case. Unlike trans indoctrination, which is founded on beliefs and ideology, being gay or lesbian requires that a person have actual, organically generated feelings of love and desire for a person of the same sex. Anybody who’s ever tried to make themselves have feelings for someone they’re not attracted to knows how futile such an exercise is.

Now, I do recall that there was at one time an odious group called NAMBLA (Man Boy Love Association) which put forth the sickening notion that grown men and minor boys could engage in legitimate romantic and sexual relationships. This was nothing but a cover for pedophilia, and it was rightfully shut down. To equate this with garden-variety gays and lesbians would do a disservice to the millions of us who have spent our lives being good citizens, minding our own business and trying to leave the world a little better than we found it.

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Nancy Robertson's avatar

I agree, Beeswax.

I am and have always been completely straight. But some of the bravest women standing up to defend biological women and girls from the transgender crazies are gay women. Brave and honorable women like Bari Weiss, Prof. Kathleen Stock and TT Exulansic. The transgender enemy is strong, and we who oppose them must work together to defeat the woke madness.

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Bruce Miller's avatar

Agree with you both. Most sane people take others as they are, gay or straight. But this idiocy, along with pedophilia is just nuts.

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Brian Villanueva's avatar

Lesbians are the most vocal opponents of the trans craze because they have the most to lose. If butch girls are really boys, that leaves lesbians in a lurch. They are our natural allies in this, if we can find a way to communicate with them. Bari Weiss is a great bridge in this regard.

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Nancy Robertson's avatar

Yes. Lesbians are our natural allies and they do have the most to lose. They were also the canaries in the coal mine, the people who first became aware of the threat to themselves and the wider world posed by "Big Trans."

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News Nut's avatar

Don't leave out journalist Katie Herzog. She writes for Weiss on Substack and co-hosts an excellent podcast called BLOCKED AND REPORTED! She is fearless and smart with a rapier like wit.

When her wife recently told her she'd just read that there are only 15 lesbian bars left in America, Herzog replied, "Oh, good, one for each of us."

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Nancy Robertson's avatar

They've all been turned into gender affirmation clinics.

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News Nut's avatar

Clinics where men who identify as women often groom, stalk and prey on young lesbians who are confused about their identities during group meetings.

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News Nut's avatar

And Katie Herzog—Don't leave her out!

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/02/style/what-is-cancel-culture.html

"Katie Herzog was a largely unknown freelance journalist living in Seattle. Then she published an article in The Stranger about trans people who halt or reverse transitions. Two days later she started getting hate mail.

“It is, by far, the most-read thing I’ve ever written,” Ms. Herzog said. It also made her “wildly reviled.” Seattle residents burned stacks of The Stranger and posted stickers calling Ms. Herzog a transphobe."

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Nancy Robertson's avatar

Thank goodness for the brave women, like Katie Herzog, who are alerting the rest of us to the danger.

I'd like to add a few more names to the list of brave women (both gay and straight). Kara Dansky, whose brand new book, The Abolition of Sex: How the "Transgender" Agenda Harms Women and Girls, is an absolute must read for everyone whose concerned about the shocking negative effects of the Big Trans cult in the US.

I started the ebook last night and will finish it this morning. It's short, succinct, highly informative, and powerfully written, like a bombshell going off. At $9.95 for the ebook and $15.99 for the paperback, it would make a terrific little stocking stuffer gift for everyone you care about.

https://smile.amazon.com/Abolition-Sex-Transgender-Agenda-Harms/dp/1637582293/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=abolition+of+sex&qid=1637509954&sr=8-1

Other names include: Karen Davis and her You've Got to Be Kidding podcast, Posey Parker (podcast), Helen Joyce (her recent book icalled Trans is another must read), Jennifer Bilek (11th Hour Blog), and I'm sure, there are others who are fighting the good fight.

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Bruce Miller's avatar

Thanks for that. Illuminating. Truth to a proggie is like garlic to a vampire.

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Bruce Miller's avatar

Problem with citing the Times is that any link requires a subscription. Akin to giving money to the Devil.

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Deb Hill's avatar

Unfortunately for gays and lesbians the woke mob took over. What used to be LGB, became LGBT, became LGBTQ, became LGBTQIA, ad infinitum. The latest additions to this alphabet soup are the most vicious bigoted radical feminists. If I don't want to date a guy who says he's a woman I become a enemy of the cause. What's the cause you ask? To obliterate the norms of sex and biology. If as they say gender is fluid then why am I not attracted to men who say they're women and vice versa men not attracted to women who say they're men. Same thing is happening with pedophilia, you have these radical groups NAMBLA is just one of them trying to mainstream pedophilia. A assistant professor at Old Dominion released a book on how to normalize pedophilia and pedophiles, by changing the definition. The term is MAP. Minor Attracted Person.

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Beeswax's avatar

I understand trans ideology very, very well. I’m 69 and have been dealing with this garbage since the mid 70s when men in dresses decided they had a right to join our lesbian social clubs. I was in the 1% who smelled a rat and resisted, but I was overruled. Lesbians were very oppressed back then (as we are, again, now, due to trans hatred of women) and my friends felt sorry for the dudes in drag claiming to be us. How many of them could there be? One or two? What’s the big deal?

Fast forward 50 years and you can hardly find a lesbian now, especially the butch variety, which constituted fifty percent of our population. Now, so-called gender nonconforming girls, the less feminine ones, the ones who would otherwise grow up to be gay, have been brainwashed to believe the world is a horrible patriarchy and men will rape and kill them if they walk down the street with their shameful breasts sticking out. Better to cut them off right now and change their name to Jason.

I know about the male predators calling themselves women, who hang on to their male genitalia, which they are longing to use on anyone with an actual vagina. Their targets are pre-teen and teenage “trans men,” who’ve been guilt-tripped and groomed to provide sex to these guys or be labeled misogynistic. I read their stories of coercion and rape on the Reddit detrans site. They are traumatized to the core. That’s just one part of the story, because of course boys are targets as well.

Believe me, you and I are on the same side. I wasn’t aware that NAMBLA still had a breath of life in it, so I stand corrected. My main concern here is that I’m seeing the word “gay” being correlated with pedophilia, and I’m sorry, that’s wrong. There are too many of us — the overwhelming majority of us — living good lives, and some of us have been victims of pedophilia ourselves. Pedophilia doesn’t produce a sexual orientation, it destroys a child’s soul.

Pedophiles come in all flavors. Jeffrey Epstein et al and the Catholic Church come to mind. Jeffrey, Bill and Bill liked the young ladies. And those priests raped a lot of little girls, you know. Please stop equating being gay with pedophilia. It’s inaccurate and it makes things harder for all of us. Thank you.

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LovingMother's avatar

Yes. I'm a very conventional straight woman who never thought I'd spend much time thinking about things like transexuality. But, I have a lovely feminine daughter who was sucked into this cult (as yet not physically harmed). I know another girl in our neighborhood who was anorexic and now takes "T" and has a new boy name. I think in an earlier time she'd have just been a lesbian instead of viewing herself as a straight boy :-0 I think the main bad actors in this play are actually entirely straight autogynephile men (more aggressive than other men), plus the Woke mob, people with blinders on their eyes, Big Pharma, Big Business (like those autogynephile billionaires), and the progressives who have found this very useful for gaining power. If these guys would just wear a dress and call it a day... That thing where our White House declared Richard/Rachael Levine to be the first Female (not simply "woman" which is crazy enough) 4 star admiral was especially Orwellian. Our country "jumped the shark" there.

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Nancy Robertson's avatar

Yes, LovingMother, our country has jumped the shark. I shudder to think what my parents and grandparents, who've all been dead for decades, would think of a country that "celebrates" bearded young girls who amputate their breasts and allows violent male felons with intact penises to self declare themselves women and gain entry to women's prisons where they can rape and impregnate with impunity. They would think we've all gone stark raving mad.

The "Rachel" Levine is a "female" incident is a new low for this country and, as you pointed out, especially Orwellian. What frightens me is this century is still young. What other horrors do the deranged billionaire Autogynephiles of Big Trans have up their sleeve?

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News Nut's avatar

With regard to "violent male felons with intact penises" transferring into women's prisons, this excellent article just now posted:

Male Inmate Sexually Assaulted Female after Transfer to Washington Women’s Prison, Former Guard Says

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/male-inmate-sexually-assaulted-female-in-washington-womens-prison-former-guard-says/

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Nancy Robertson's avatar

Thank you News Nut, another friend also altered me to this article. It's absolutely outrageous.

The most important women's right isn't the right to vote nor the right to receive equal pay for equal work. It's the right not to be raped or impregnated by convicted male felons. Without this fundamental women's right, the other women's rights are meaningless.

It's a travesty that this story has been completely ignored by the woke and brainwashed mainstream media. But it's no mystery why -- it gives lie to the narrative of the harmless and gentle "transgender women."

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Beeswax's avatar

Thank you. Well said.

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BeadleBlog's avatar

I hear the pain your feel for your daughter and wish and your daughter a better future. Beautiful writing.

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Deb Hill's avatar

Nowhere did I mention that I thought gay men were pedophiles. I was agreeing with you. What I was saying was, the LGB cause was taken over by a bunch of radicals who have no qualms about normalizing pedophilia. There is no LGB as a organization today, it's become the TQIA intersectional cult. Where hate breeds hate, and intolerance is accepted as virtue. They want us too accept- No they demand we accept, and celebrate their degeneracy. Not me. Not ever. The inmates are running the asylum. As my granny said when I was a child. Not one ounce of my worth is dependent upon what others think of me.

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ALToronto's avatar

There are LGB organizations springing up, and they're immediately denounced as "hate groups".

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Deb Hill's avatar

Yep. I feel like I'm living in a alternative universe.

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Nancy Robertson's avatar

I feel like I'm living in an alternative universe, too, even though I'm straight. Is there no limit to the bull**** that Big Trans is pushing on our entire society?

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Poppyseed Winter's avatar

That's okay to say. Gay men are pedophiles

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Deb Hill's avatar

It's also okay to say straight men are pedophiles. Catholic priests are pedophiles. Muslim clergy are pedophiles. Movie moguls are pedophiles. On and on and on.

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Poppyseed Winter's avatar

Please Allow Me To Assist Those Who Are Yet To Understand About This Belief System. Take Your Time. https://www.bitchute.com/video/qWvQFDlmEYd9/

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Dana Jumper's avatar

That "at one time an odious group" is still very much with us, there is no shortage of examples of indoctrination of children. You can deny it, but that doesn't make it not so.

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LovingMother's avatar

Hey, Beeswax, What do you think of this co-opting of the term "come out" as applied to the Gender fantasy? It seems like teens are made to feel special and to me that smells of grooming. Back in the 1970s when someone revealed they were same-sex attracted it may have been a different thing? It feels like it's taken on a sacredness in this new context.

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Beeswax's avatar

Of course "coming out" as trans is a cooptation of the term. The whole of gender ideology and its tactics as applied to children are spurious.

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LovingMother's avatar

The villainous Dr. Diane Ehrenshaft wrote learned articles about Satanic Ritual child abuse back during that craze - Presideo Preschool.

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Nancy Robertson's avatar

It's like you get to wear the sparkly birthday crown when you're in kindergarten and everyone sings Happy Birthday for you. You make a wish, blow out the candles, and then you get to eat your chocolate cup cake. Only in Trans-world, the birthday boy or girl gets to poison themselves with puberty blockers and cross sex hormones and mutilate their genitals.

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Real's avatar

Your departure from Godliness,

[ See Romans 1 & Isaiah 66,

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-Chapter-1

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Isaiah-Chapter-66 ]

can never leave the world better.

Your delusion

promotes confusion,

which is the intention.

See, "What Is The Frankfurt School?"

https://eagleforumofcalifornia.org/pages/What_is_the_Frankfurt_School_-_Dr._Gerald_Atkinson_-_1999.pdf

Repent.

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Please Allow Me To Assist Those Who Are Yet To Understand About This Belief System. Take Your Time. https://www.bitchute.com/video/qWvQFDlmEYd9/

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Beeswax's avatar

I know. I hear you. Equally baffling is the unquestioning acceptance of trans-identified males in women's sports and prisons by my cohorts, the lesbian-feminists of the 1970s, who have devoted literally decades to lesbian rights, women's reproductive rights and the like.

In terms of the transing of children, they refuse to acknowledge that it's happening or to see it as a problem in any way. They don't seem to notice that the lesbian community has disappeared. They're so deep in the woke sinkhole they might as well be brain dead. I don't bother with them anymore.

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LovingMother's avatar

It is a religion. Most people who do not even give it serious thought go along with it because they feel they are being good. They are among the Elect. For those caught in the web and promoting it I think there is an element of Stockhom Syndrome. Then, there are a great many who profit from Trans in medicine, pharma, politics.... There's a crazy amount of billionaire autoggynephile $$$. I am ashamed of our government.

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