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Sandi Brockway's avatar

Your unfiltered display of bigotry here, are not shielded by your virtue signaling. I agree with Lynne, your remarks clearly are racist, and I am very cautious in using that label. Hamas did not start anything on the 7th, read the timeline leading up to this. Of course you won't, I know that.

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Perry James's avatar

Yikes, Sandi -- You are divorced from reality! It doesn't matter what has happened before between Israel and Gaza, the attack on Oct. 7th was so vicious that it stands on its own as a monstrous act that defines the character of the terrorists and of their movement. People who have even the slightest bit of wisdom know that violence begets violence. That vicious attack was guaranteed to invite a disproportionate response from Israel. The Hamas terrorists care nothing about the Gazan civilians. They knew that huge numbers of civilians would die. You are out of touch with reality, and your values are BADLY SKEWED. Now, it's time for you to put your hajib back on and go back to your tent city.

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AL's avatar

Who knows who started that? You only know what the US media reports. DO you realize how dumb that sounds? Oct. 7 was a set up--you can never sell me the idea that the Big Palestinian Idea was one day of bombing that they didn't have the ability to repeat even a second day. The concept alone is ridiculous. It was a staged massacred, like 9/11, to get people like you up in arms.

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Perry James's avatar

Now you are just talking nonsense. You remind me of my downstairs neighbor who fancies himself to have special insight into every situation, and who believes in multiple conspiracy theories. He is a diabetic with blood-sugar numbers in the danger zone, and yet he rejects the advice of his doctors.

"Oct. 7 was a set up--you can never sell me the idea that the Big Palestinian Idea was one day of bombing that they didn't have the ability to repeat even a second day."

I don't know what that means. I don't know what it means to put on a "staged massacre, the purpose of which is to inflame people". Hamas' feelings about Israel are well known. October 7th was an orgasm of hate.

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AL's avatar

Simpleton. No wonder you think people who live outside of the matrix are "conspiracy theorists."

"I don't know what that means. I don't know what it means to put on a "staged massacre, the purpose of which is to inflame people". "

Exactly, Perry--you do not know--you really do not understand what is happening. That IS the problem.

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Tina B's avatar

The fact that replies on this feed actually endorse, justify and excuse sadistic brutal violent acts carried out by Iran (aka Hamas) on 10/7/23 is inconceivable. Does anything EVER justify the premeditated burning of babies alive? What kind of twisted logic is that. ItтАЩs like having compassion and defending a pedophile who violently brutalized children. These type of responses expose a deep societal current of moral decay and genuine ignorance. Case in point, pro-Hamas protests on privileged, rich elite well funded safe college campuses.

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AL's avatar

Nobody is justifying anything--rather, explaining how the masses are manipulated by the people in power who pit Jews and Palestinians and everyone else against one another in their pursuits to exert more power and control. The same forces responsible for the fake pandemic and the poisonous vax, which sweet Bibi was more than happy to force upon every Israeli. WAKE the hell up.

College students are protesting the slaughter of ten of thousands of Palestinians. Period. Just like they protested Vietnam and other social causes throughout history where innocents are dying. You are justifying mass murder because you believe "Hamas" fired rockets on Oct. 7. Be careful what you believe and wake the hell up.

They've got you where they want you, Tina. Nowhere in reality.

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Eugine Nier's avatar

> Hamas did not start anything on the 7th

True in the sense that they started it much earlier.

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Sandi Brockway's avatar

In simple terms, Israelis are not safe until Palestinians are safe, and they have not been safe from violent Zionism since 1947. Bibi' fascist rule has not made life safer for Jews. This is not a hard concept to grasp.

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Perry James's avatar

And ... Gazans are not safe from Hamas. That is the part of the equation that you didn't mention. Hamas knew that thousands of Gazans would die as a result of their attack. You are an extremist of the worst kind.

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Eugine Nier's avatar

> In simple terms, Israelis are not safe until Palestinians are safe

I believe you have that reversed.

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Tina B's avatar

Al, war is ugly and insidious. There is NO pc in war. It is always about power. When you start a war leaders should count the cost to their people in advance. It is called a battle plan. The impact. The consequences. They plan offense to protect their citizens. Hamas did none of this. They left THEIR Gazan citizens vulnerable and unprotected. Encouraged the use of homes of everyday Gazans to traffic Israeli and American hostages through the network. Used citizens to inact kidnapping and barbarism. Built tunnels under their citizens as decoys. Yes, October 7th was about power. Derailing the Abraham Accord. Yes, I am sure Israel is not historically perfect. No country is. The wars between Arab countries and Israel go back hundreds of year. Yet, what occurred on 10/7/23 was butchery. It was wrong. The videos circulated by Hamas cannot be gaslighted. The prime party using this assault for power and control has been Iran. Every nation has a right to defend itself. What do you expect Israel to do about attacks from Hamas, Houthis and Hezbollah? I am deeply sad for тАЬsomeтАЭ of the innocent Gazans but those complicit in the butchery I am not.

As for your comment about Vietnam, how American citizens treated our soldiers who returned from that war was despicable. Traumatizing. Demoralizing. Many who were involuntarily drafted or truly desired to protect freedom and their country became political targets. College Protestors again were mislead and naive in many accounts. Unleashed horrible accusations on tired, abused and beat down US citizens. Did not really know the full story but what media told them. Privileged college students, rich kids who dodged the draft and avoided going to war. Kinda like college protestors who donтАЩt know the Quran, have never been to Gaza and are not knowledgeable about Sharia Law. Freedom and non-violence are not part of their language when it comes to infidels.

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