Ms shrier thank you for your book and insight. Unfortunately it was too late for my daughter. Much like the cases you presented,I dropped off a successful, happy beautiful daughter to UCLA at 18. Within 6 months she declared that all men were rapists, within a year she denounced me as an obstacle complicit with the patriarchy and within 2 years with the help of Ucla Med center at 19 she fast tracked herself to hormones and top surgery.
And just like that this cult took my daughter.
I grieve her absence from morning to evening everyday
I am so sorry for your loss and cannot even imagine the pain you must be experiencing. Hopefully someday your daughter can be deprogrammed once she gets a bit more wisdom and life experience.
The Crit Theory cult (of which Gender is a branch) is truly malevolent and they do not care about your daughter or anyone's daughter, they are on a demented crusade to dismantle every institution in this country and replace its leaders with commissars who share their miserable faith.
Someday they will try to deny what they've done, they will say "Oh, we didn't know better," or "We were just trying to help, it was a good cause," which is the same excuse every destructive pseudo-reformer has used to wave away their crimes.
But we will know better and we will have to make sure they are held accountable.
"Society must defeat this Gender Ideology cult craze, and it will. But think past simply defeating it: a dangerous Gnostic delusion has destroyed the lives of countless young people, and it did so with near-unanimous institutional and media support. Think past victory and start thinking about justice and reform. Thousands of children were harmed psychologically and many physically butchered - even as they believed they were finding their “authentic selves”. We vow to never, ever let this happen to other children. So what will we do after we have defeated this cult?"
Yes, there should be trials and convictions. There will need to be dedicated academic study into this phenomenon, explorations of how it came about and was defeated. But we are a long way from that yet when the president of the US is such an extreme member of the cult. On his very first day in office he made it a priority to underscroe the genderist assault on children and women.
Biden showed his colors at a town hall before the election - applauding the "transition" of an 8 year old girl. At this point I don't think he is aware of what he is doing but whoever is running things at the White House certainly has a crazy unhealthy/destructive agenda on this matter. I think we are going to need a museum about what happened. Planning for that could show we are serious. Things could shift really suddenly. People are gaining more awareness via the men in sports fiasco. There could be a sudden preference cascade. And, we need to vote out anyone who does not speak out against Gender Ideology and stand up for the kids and young people and women. What is happening in education is enormously unpopular.
Yes, LM. The people must send a strong message to stop this "gender" insanity once and for all before any more children or adults are harmed.
I can only imagine what horrors might be in this museum. Let's start with a video of a 12 year old girl undergoing a double mastectomy so she can "live her authentic life."
Abigail Shrier is a brave woman going against all odds striving to protect children from being at best sexualized and worst having their bodies mutilated. She's putting her own life on the line to protect vulnerable people.
Do you consider drug abusers to be "victims" of evil pushers rather than people of low character who readily succumb to temptation. It's one thing when a child or adolescent is duped into sex dysphoria - but, an adult (18 year-old college student) has no one blame but herself.
I would consider anyone of any age who is conned into disfiguring surgery / damaging drugs to be a victim entitled to restitution. These teenagers are psychologically manipulated prior to being physically altered.
The con man is indeed guilty of wrong-doing, but only people of low character become their willing dupes. Answer my question - is a drug user a "victim"?
You're full of humanist bah-loney and a muddle-headed thinker. I do not "judge" people at all - they define themselves by their actions. I have no sympathy for ADULT addicts or suicides or bizarre mental disorders or criminals.
Children - CLEARLY - are a different issue. They do not have the cognitive development to be able to resist temptations and tricksters. That adults fail to develop character is unfortunate, but it's their problem and is almost entirely iuncurable. Protecting and enabling them is destructive to the species.
The young people are groomed for "gender". It is likely a different matter if the person is 50, like Richard Levine (AGP).
For the young it is pretty much a cult where they are mentally separated from families who love them and trained to think they are something other than what they are. The mind is still maturing at the ages when these people who have vowed to "do no harm" give them hormones and perform surgeries. Think NXIVM or HeavenGate or JonesTown but without one specific leader. Instead it is institutionalized everywhere in Education, Medicine, and Law. But, there is no such thing as a "Transgender" person. There are CFM (Cosmetically Feminized Men) and CMW (Cosmetically Masculinzed Women). The fully grown people do it for sexual reasons like fetish - see Dr. Deborah Soh "The End of Gender". The young people - teens & twenties are in a cult and people are making $$$ off of their naivety.
I really hope that nothing bad ever happens to you where you need to use strong pain medication for more than 3 months. Why? Drug user. Low character. Would apply to you. We will all put our hands in our pocket to buy you the T shirt. Drug users can be victims. Why? Many drug abusers are trying to find a, way to shut out the voices in their heads. Drug users all say they are not victims but can control their drug use. The majority can otherwise everyone who drinks alcohol would be totally disfunction and the western world would collapse. Some people will have an issue with drugs. They are not of low character any more than you are, although from your comments on here, we could assume that you are of low character by the way you speak of others. People have issues, people deal with their issues. You may not approve but nobody is asking for your approval. And you are entitled to your opinions, just think about where you put them.
I suggest you not waste your time arguing with this person. Any time someone attacks the person he’s arguing with is the time to walk away because he is not interested in discussion, learning, or educating. He’s interested in forcing his views on you. He’s interested in overpowering you. The individual you’re battling with here is consistently using ad hominem as his modus operandi. Keep up your own good work, and bless you for it!
Drug users land along a spectrum. Many use drugs occasionally for pleasure and short "altered states" which is something humans have engaged in for thousands of years. On the other side of the spectrum are those whose lives are incredibly painful with so many unmet needs that they struggle to ever be in a sober state. To punish an addict is to make their life even more painful and exacerbate the problem. Addicts don't need to be punished, they need community, a sense of meaning and purpose.
When a person turns 18, they don't immediately become a mature, high functioning adult. They are the same person as they were the day before, when they were 17 and still a child. I'm curious why you think you are the one to judge who is of "low character"?
That's my point - humans are subject to mental illness. I never said otherwise. What I said is they are NOT victims - especially those who CHOOSE their destructive poisons.
Do you think there are no "bad" people in the world? What I'm arguing is that you fail to place blame where it belongs. You are not thinking logically, but emotionally, and your sympathies are misplaced. That's because the humanists have brain-washed you. They were able to do so because you are weak-minded.
Legally, an adult, so yes, responsible for her decisions. However, we now know that the frontal cortex is not fully developed in most humans until they are about 25, so perhaps this situation merits a tiny bit of empathy and not just finger-wagging moral superiority.
Yes, the brain is not fully developed until somewhere in the mid 20s but hormones and surgeries are promoted younger and younger and labeled "life saving affirming care". Planned parenthood hands "T" out with no gatekeeping at all. And, college campuses are in the hormones and "sex change" operation business on the parents' insurance dime without informing them. I don't think you can get your vision laser corrected until 26 because the eye is still changing.
You've bought into the pop psychology nonsense about brain development. The evidence is not there for that claim. Development (change over time) is a LIFE-LONG process. Different brain function mature at a different times in different people. You're being duped by bogus, "sciencey" claims of ideology-motivated pseudoscientists and the medias' distorted reporting of same.
It's like global warming and COVID - nothing conclusive has been demonstrated to support the claims regarding either - it's all "expert" speculation and "authoritative" claims. The well-controlled studies either contradict (the efficacy of masking for e.g.) or fail to support the claims.
I really cannot care much about COVID or Global warming right now one way or another - I have to say. These young people are suckered into a cult ideology at a very young age. Everyone around them including all authorities and institutions promote and affirm the Gender Religion. Once these kids are in the cult they are easy fodder for profiteering doctors. When left alone most of them mature out of it around their mid twenties. Many of them mature out of it around that time after having suffered permanent physical harm. There are 26,000 regretful detransitioners on a subreddit - and these are just the 20 somethings who are up to posting about their experience. The more steps these kids take with social tranistion and then hormones the harder it is for them mentally to turn around and desist. And, only parents tell them they should.
I do not see the point of your post... Why should we be teaching Gender Ideology at School like it is scientific fact?
People's character is largely fixed by the age of 12. Neither YOU nor anyone else knows anything about the relationship of the frontal cortex to character - that's pseudoscience.
Empathy for the depraved is callousness for the decent. Try thinking.
I've read similar, that many of us fail to factor in the long-term consequences of our actions until we are well into our twenties. It's a complex world, more so than it has ever been. Small wonder that so many of the young are having difficulty differentiating fact from fantasy.
That's right and it's why I make a distinction between protecting kids and protecting adults.
The encouragement of gender fantasies and transitioning is destructive lunacy - children must be protected from the psychopaths who promote such damaging ideas. However, we have to accept the reality that kids differ in their innate capacity to resist loony ideas and some will succumb to them when they achieve autonomy. It's the same with drug addiction - kids of innately strong character will not have a problem resisting upon exposure - the genetically defective will yield to it.
Children should be protected and given a chance to mature. Adults are cooked and are not deserving of the money and energy wasted trying to "save" them. To do so is to practice dysgenics. Ironically, humanists who oppose eugenics have no problem with promoting dysgenics (rationalizing and enabling the depraved).
Brain development is not completed until the age of 25 - so no, nobody who succumbs to predatory pushers below that age is fully in possession of their faculties, whatever the legal age of adulthood may be.
People are responsible proportionate to their developmental stage. Fact: brain development is not fully completed until approximately age 25. Ingesting brain/hormone altering substances at any stage before that can be more dangerous or disruptive to development. The brain goes through a sort of neurological pruning process between the ages of approx 17-25. This is quite often when schizophrenia begins to develop and there is some good evidence suggesting this process going awry may be the cause. This is the period when schizophrenia most ofen first manifests in those who have it. It's known that as little as a single episode of drug or alcohol abuse can trigger it in some people. This is obviously not directly on the point of puberty blockers or hormones but it is illustrative of how damaging the ingestion of puberty blockers (for younger people) - and hormones could be. There is criminally little research on the full range and longer term effects of either. If a person who has latent or incipient schizophrenia were also to take hormones and puberty blockers the consequences could be severe. Either way, brain development is still not complete until approx 25yrs of age.
I made no mention of chronological age. I made a distinction between children and mature adults. You don't have a clue when brain development is "complete" - you're just reciting pop psychobabble nonsense.
You think there are no vulnerable adults! Do you know any drug users who are having to prostitute themselves for money for drugs? I do. I worked with adult drug users for many years and know there are as many reasons for their use as there are people who use. As for young adults being inducted into the church of trans. It is hard to leave home as a young woman in thus world. It is hard to work out what is right and what is wrong. I M ow I was one such young woman. Trans was not the issue, but living with "unsuitable and dangerous" people in a squat and doing things that were not legal were. I am lucky! What I did didn't negatively impact my life.
Please have some humility when it comes to judging others as it might all come back on you in the future.
I can read!! And you are so judgemental... No, people do not define themselves only by their behaviours but by the way they treat others. And you stand out as judgemental and full of yourself,i.e not a very civilised or bright individual. Have a nice life!
Derailing the conversation would seem to be Hominid's aim. He doesn't want to allow Abigail's readers to be able to gather and respond together to her article. (Vested interest, much?). Hence his illogical, non sequitur, scattergun trolling, flooding the comments section.
People who act in bad faith to disrupt... oh nevermind. Life's too short. And if Hominid has a go at this comment, I'll not take the bait.
I'm not often wrong about the points I make because I do not offer opinions based on wishful thinking or pop culture myths, but rather on hard evidence with which I'm familiar. Where I lack knowledge of such evidence, I keep my mouth shut and try to learn.
I feel sorry for you. You seem to be a fantasist, but I do hope you have evidence re what you have just put on this site as I can see her suing you for slander. Don't know what book you read but I don't think it was the book she actually wrote.
You are naive and cruel if you think that. What I am trying to communicate is that extremely powerful forces and incentive structure will kidnap your child and all of society will fight me the parent to rescue her.
Go back and try to understand what you wrote. You have mindlessly accepted the idea that one is an "adult " at age 18. Anybody over 40 would understand that one doesnot automatically become an adult at age 18.
Your analogy creates a false dichotomy. A doctor/patient relationship is not comparable to a drug pusher/addict. Or shouldn't be anyway. A medical doctor is licensed by their state's medical board. Physicians have a duty to 'do no harm'. Drug dealers are criminals who do whatever they want unless they're caught. A child seeking out unnecessary, irreversible surgery should be told 'No' by a responsible, ethical doctor.
Hey, dummy - ask an abortion doctor if he does harm. You dunces think it's a matter of you're "right" and the opposition is "wrong" or you're "good" and they're "bad." While many might agree with your ethics (myself included) your opponents see it the other way around. Ergo, the right vs wrong argument is utterly stupid. Your goal must be VICTORY - you have to IMPOSE your ethical standards on the nation.
18 is a young adult. Colleges and universities are "trans/queer/gender identity" indoctrination centers now. Parents send their young adults to colleges and universities for higher education, not indoctrination. No, it is not the fault of the young adult or parent, that colleges and universities have become indoctrinations centers, IF, the young adult or parent did not know this in the first place.
Duped means tricked/deceived. It IS the fault of those deliberately deceiving children and young adults. Even the elderly get are targeted for deception/scams because of their age.
Children and the aged are exceptions - why do I have to keep saying that?
But, weak-mindedness is the reason dupes are dupable.
I've explained this at length. If you subscribe to fallacious humanist ideology that tells you to accept (even celebrate) deficiencies, you embrace dysgenics and will suffer the consequences you and others are whining about (miseducation, perversion, drug abuse, criminality, etc). Are you incapable of grasping that logical concept?
It is this emotion-based "empathy and sympathy" that enables the problems to reach destructive levels. Only if humanists stop defending losers and let natural selection work its magic will the problems recede. Read the biological reality of Darwin and put down the Bible and Marxist Manifesto. Learn reality and stop believing myths.
Addiction is a blight. This is a way too simplistic look at
Humans. It doesn’t reflect neuroscience. Addiction is a big behavior driver as well as sex. It is curbed thru morals which are influenced by religion and parenting. But when the parent or god isn’t there…well. Its absolutely about the abuser or dealer. There should be no mercy for them.
Totally unsubstantiated humanist mythology. Neuroscience shows exactly the opposite - personality traits and resultant behaviors of adults are mainly genetically determined. God is mystical nonsense.
Interesting. So you don’t think humans are foragers? God is part of the eons of morality teaching of our forebears designed to inhibit those behaviors. Its why the lack of it that will be our undoing. You've proven it today.
While there is nothing any of us can do for HG's daughter, there is something we can do for our own: stop sending our kids to universities that want to harm them! I've met lots of great parents (even home educating ones) who did everything right until age 18. Then they proudly sent their kids off to Harvard or UCLA or Berkeley or MIT or Stanford, not knowing that they were paying thousands of dollars to a cult. Now we know. We can no longer claim ignorance. So how many of us are going to stop sending our kids to these places?
We've told our 3 daughters that we will not pay for any Ivy League or similar level school. If it's a big name in US News, it's likely off our list. However, there are lots of schools that provide a great (in many way better) education. Hillsdale College is rapidly becoming the homeschool Harvard. Christendom, Ozarks, PHC (somewhat), maybe U of Austin (if they get it off the ground). There are many others, but you have to be willing to forgo the "big name" and the resulting (slim) chance to make it into the elite of America.
We've decided that truth is more important than Harvard (ironic considering its motto.) How many others are willing to "live not by lies" as Solzhenitsyn said?
BTW: HG, my heart goes out to you. Just make sure your daughter knows that however much she's mutilated herself physically, however miserable she becomes spiritually, she will always have a place at home. That's all you can do. The rest is up to her.
I have three daughters. The oldest is 10 right now, but when we talk about college we talk up Hillsdale (where my Godparents went, and which is near my parents' house), Franciscan University of Steubenville (my alma mater), and similar schools like Thomas Aquinas, Ave Maria, and University of Dallas.
Yes. Stuebenville and Aquinas are on my list. I didn't know about U of Dallas, but I'll look into it. Anyone else have suggestions from their own research?
U of Dallas may be good now, but it takes federal student loans, and unless it has a plan to forgo that funding source, it will eventually cave. The federal student loan program has already been used to enforce social engineering regarding race and sexual orientation. It will be used as a club against Christian universities the same way gay marriage laws are being used as a club against Catholic adoption agencies (Bethany, the largest Protestant agency, already caved.)
BTW, I can vouch for Hillsdale College. I have been a supporter for years, living mere miles away. They have many classes available on line and and free.
THE SYSTEMS THAT GOVERN OUR LIVES HAVE BEEN CORRUPTED
This is our #1 issue. We cannot rank anything higher than this issue. It is an issue we can and should all agree on. All political sides and all people.
It is like having a computer that has been hacked and corrupted. When we sit here arguing about hot button or other issues that is like arguing about what programs run better on the corrupted computer. NONE of them run better. Not until we fix the system. We have to put all of our attention on focusing on fixing the ACTUAL SYSTEM first. It's not that hard to do actually. We just need a movement. A decentralized one. And a plan.
What is the solution? Our systems have been corrupted by regulatory capture and special interest groups - we can't expect the system to fix itself. We need a NEW idea. One that makes the old one obsolete.
If our problem is systemic corruption the best cure is radical FORCED TRANSPARENCY.
I beg all of you to read this, and then join in the solutions minded comments. It is totally free:
Righteous people like above have mo idea what powerful force we are dealing with. Putting down my child as low character will not help get rid of this child trap for other parents
I am so sorry. Reading this quite literally broke my heart. I fan’t imagine how you feel. Best to keep kids away from colleges now. I say that as an adjunct. These places are indoctrination centers now.
I grew up near Ann Arbor, and know several families - liberal, progressive parents - who did nothing but "affirm affirm affirm" every single pronoun change and bespoke "Gender", and their daughters still went to college, accused them of being "abusers", mutilated themselves, and broke off all contact.
I am so sorry to hear this. This is truly heartbreaking.
I warn parents everywhere (myself as a parent included!) to avoid sending their children to liberal universities, no matter how prestigious, unless the child is very Firmly Set in conservative beliefs and not vulnerable to peer pressure (my little brother fits in that category). Most people are vulnerable to peer pressure. These schools brainwash these kids to a horrific degree.
Just like your daughter, they are wonderful, normal happy children before college & college transforms them into something else. Many children go to college then turn away from their families, hate their parents, become AntiFa extremists, some become terrorists, some join ISIS. There is no way to predict.
Warning to Parents everywhere: Do not send your children to liberal universities. It is NOT worth it. It will destroy their lives. Unless they have Firm Grounding & are completely impervious to peer pressure (there are rare people with that gift)
I tell every parent to forget the entire UC system. Send them to Hillsdale Christian university anywhere but the liberal organizations. My daughter had no preexisting factors, by the time I realized what I was dealing with she was 19 and I was powerless
UCLA did everything in their power to speed this up. I am a physician and I hope the ones that treats my daughter have hell waiting for them
Girls afraid of men. Who wouldn't be in this hyper-sexed environment? Most of today's pop culture is pornographic. I personally know girls raped at a young age that became lesbian. Maybe this is also a factor to consider.
I am sorry to hear that. I am a physician and I know for a fact that they are suppressing the data on hormone therapy especially in girls. High testosterone levels are a detrimental to the female body. First their thyroid gland stops working by 20s by 30s their liver shows dysfunction by 40s their heart. I am watching my daughter die in slow motion
Someone quite seriously needs to take this one on as malpractice and negligence. Its truly time to scare them away from doing these. I am so so sorry. Everytime. I read another parent replying to your original post my heart breaks. Luckily I have boys and they are both alpha males. I just don't see it ever happening thank god. We joke about all the time instead like today I am a man. Tomorrow I am a woman. But it doesn't seem so funny anymore.
According to my reading. The testosterone effects on the liver and cardiovascular systems are cumulative and irreversible. Women simply don’t have the enzymes to metabolize testosterone like men do. So the products lingers in their systems. The liver works overtime ti get rid of it and of course it can’t.
Fertility is irreversible after a few years
The effects on their voice is irreversible right away so is hair growth.
Hi HG, Maybe you would like to add your story to the many others on Parent's with Inconvenient Truths About Trans? I think you just need to send an email to PITT@substack.com. You might include what you know about the UC System and the effect of Testosterone on girls & women. We are living through a scandal of epic proportion. I suspect most of the girls are steeped in the ideology for some years before they show any signs of it affecting them. I heard Gender Ideology spewing from a friend of my daughter's here and there for some time and never dreamed such nonsense would have an effect.
HG. My heart goes out to you. I truly hope you will be reunited with your daughter again someday soon.
Note to other parents: the University of California will indeed indoctrinate your children. The organization is controlled by activists from the UC Regents through the administrations of the schools and the hospitals.
think the best strategy is to assume indoctrination will happen and start a dialogue as early as possible with your child so they recognize it and reject it... probably easier said than done.
I agree completely. They are in a cult and they cannot speak logically about it. You cannot reason a person out of a religion and everyone around the girl celebrates them.
My daughter has stage 4 cancer. I would take that over this cult. At least I have a chance at saving my child. I am sorry for all the families that have to endure this. It’s a nightmare.
THE SYSTEMS THAT GOVERN OUR LIVES HAVE BEEN CORRUPTED
This is our #1 issue. We cannot rank anything higher than this issue. It is an issue we can and should all agree on. All political sides and all people.
It is like having a computer that has been hacked and corrupted. When we sit here arguing about hot button or other issues that is like arguing about what programs run better on the corrupted computer. NONE of them run better. Not until we fix the system. We have to put all of our attention on focusing on fixing the ACTUAL SYSTEM first. It's not that hard to do actually. We just need a movement. A decentralized one. And a plan.
What is the solution? Our systems have been corrupted by regulatory capture and special interest groups - we can't expect the system to fix itself. We need a NEW idea. One that makes the old one obsolete.
If our problem is systemic corruption the best cure is radical FORCED TRANSPARENCY.
I beg all of you to read this, and then join in the solutions minded comments. It is totally free:
When you posted the same comment over and over about Ms Shrier I took you to simply be some sort of troll. Here I see you have real and passionate concerns but I think you are very mistaken in your interpretations of what you observe. If you are truly for children, you won’t find a better advocate than Abigail Shrier, so please do read her book.
Thank you for making it abundantly clear that you have chosen to concoct the most twisted meaning possible of Shrier’s statement. “Exposing” a person, child or adult, to “ideas” is not even vaguely condoning pedophilia. Do you have children? What do you teach them? Do you think you have a right to teach them what you do?
I have seen no evidence in any of Abigail Shrier’s writings efforts to sway public opinion to normalize pedophilia. Please provide exact quotes and dates of her writings so we can see how you are forming these bizarre interpretations and incredible accusations.
I ordered 5 of your books at our local, extremely leftist bookstore. I will buy 3 and leave 2. That’s how I get these important books into places that would NEVER carry them on their shelves. They’re stuck with them. I also get great satisfaction from the actual order process. It usually takes 3 attempts but my efforts pay off and they take my money for the books. Excellent investigation and exposure of this horrific experiment on our children. God Bless you Abigail.
I've worked in both bookstores and libraries and the chances are good the books won't make it to the shelves, in either case...but I would not let that stop me!
It may be the staff member who picks up the book is the one who most needs it.
FYI---libraries are very embedded in this charade, so not wanting to be part of promoting lies, I retired at 54. I don't miss it.
Comments like this are what happens when you go off your meds without talking to your psychiatrist, Marek. And you better be very careful about veiled threats like your last sentence. You aren’t smart enough to avoid getting caught beforehand if you actually decide to go through with something.
That letter almost made me cry! I can only imagine the terror a parent must feel watching their child being brainwashed and contemplating self-mutilation.
I don't know what is more morally grotesque, the gender cult's desperate desire to castrate children to validate their own life choices and insecurities (like all fundamentalists they need to turn children into puppets who sing from their hymnal) or the way the Democratic Party along with the media have blindly vengefully pushed this crusade to the point now where not teaching 'gender' to 6yr olds is some sort of hate crime.
The Democrats and the media have really painted themselves into a corner on this one--in their social circles, trans people are sacred victims, not just a protected class but a holy caste, and saying NO to any of their demands is worse than a breach of etiquette, it is blasphemy. This has become a religious crusade for them so there is no off-ramp, no brakes, they simply do not have the vocabulary to confront or disagree w the gender cult.
I voted Democrat in every election from 1992-2016. I will never vote for one again until they find a cure for the Crit Theory virus that has eaten their brains.
"I voted Democrat in every election from 1992-2016. I will never vote for one again until they find a cure for the Crit Theory virus that has eaten their brains."
Agree. I think we must stop using their language. There are no "trans people". There are Cosmetically Feminized Men (CFM) and Cosmetically Masculinized Women (CMF). The Dems really have backed themselves into a corner (everyone of them I can think of other than Tulsi Gabbard). But, I have been disappointed with establishment Republicans who have not considered this issue a priority. Governor Cox of UT even recently spoke to school children at a "Kids Town Hall" , introducing himself with pronouns and encouraging them to do so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvXvsWI6jFw
yeah, unfortunately once you turn away from Democrats it means you have to contemplate the Republicans, who are also vile...(and i also try never to use any Gender Studies language, as it is not meant to communicate or enlighten but to manipulate and distort, but at the same time I try to be polite and not degrade anyone. It is important in all this not to become as repulsive as the people you oppose.)
I agree about being polite and never degrading anyone! It is a problem though that we are told to use Gender Studies language because not to do so is impolite/degrading and we are then called ugly names. We shouldn't gaslight people but politely show them we do not buy into unreality. I believe in compassion for all. That is not the same as agreeing with mentally disordered thinking.
And, I do not think we should have so many people with a mental disorder themselves in positions of power in public health. It is one thing for a man of 50 to decide he wants feminizing surgery. It is another when he has a powerful position he uses to push an ideology and to push medicalizing young people, as Levine did recently at Duke University.
I agree with you that there are plenty of foul politicians on both sides of the isle. But, I will vote for anyone who will turn this ship around. Once that is done we can see who to vote in or out...
💯% in agreement to the extent that we recognize that which silly politician we vote for next has, if anything, practically nothing to do with it. The seeds of this devastation were sown long back, germanated and took root during several political regimes. There are powers-that-be at an invisible helm in this blight on civilization. Follow the $$. All identity groups are mere pawns, our babies are being forged into tools to perpetuate the Marxist-totalitarian march. The devastated, crushed, and destroyed families are just necessary collateral damage as far as the perpetrators are concerned. We have been subjected to it before, but apparently not learned, that humans can do unspeakable things. What’s being done to the children now is worse because it has been made “speakable” through the grotesque twisting of reality and by brainwashing minds as young as pre-school, and with threats and cudgels held over terrified parents who protest. “Lose your child to our cult, or lose her to suicide.”
100% agree as well. This is the closing part of an article I referenced earlier:
"High-level professionals can and do commit crimes against humanity. A doctor who performs unethical human experimentation is a criminal. After the famous Nuremberg trial came twelve lesser-known "Subsequent Nuremberg trials." In the first, The Doctors' Trial, 21 of the 23 defendants were medical doctors. Sixteen were found guilty. Seven were hanged.
A judge who enforces twisted laws is a criminal. Like Oswald Rothaug. The fact that he’s a judge, a highly educated person entrusted with enforcing duly enacted laws, doesn’t make it better, it makes it worse. He never carried a gun; he carried a gavel. That’s enough. (At the third Subsequent Nuremberg trial Judge Rothaug was sentenced to life imprisonment for crimes against humanity.)
In the other ten, civilian government officials were tried for crimes against humanity. Leading businessmen, too:
“There was no opportunity for prosperity. ... We thought that Hitler would give us such a healthy environment. Indeed he did do that. ... We Krupps never cared much about [political] ideas. We only wanted a system that worked well and allowed us to work unhindered. Politics is not our business.” -Alfried Krupp, 1947
Remind you of anyone in Big Pharma?
Human rights law has ample precedent for trying civilian politicians for crimes against humanity. Professionals and businessmen and intellectuals, too. There is no reason for us to feel squeamish about this prospect. If anything, these “elite” people are worse than the dumb brute with a gun, and deserve harsher punishment. They know what they’re doing. Their mistakes poison the entire system.
This is a long battle but don’t despair. For crimes against humanity, there is no statute of limitations. And no sovereign immunity for politicians."
"But, I have been disappointed with establishment Republicans who have not considered this issue a priority. "
100% !
There are many establishment GOP (and Dems) who are just there to get $$$$ from Corporations & their sole purpose is tax cuts & whatever Corporations want. They care Zero about parents & American families. We have to call them out. We have to vote them out. Make it known. If they don't fight for American families & American values, vote them out. If all they do is tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts & that's it, if their focus is CEO's & not families, we vote them out!
I go back to McGovern in '72. I'm of same opinion as You, Clever Pseudonym. Except I don't EVER plan on voting Dem if there's any Way around it. That's just me.
Meanwhile for Donald Trump was the ONLY President in American history that more whites died under him than were born, and 90% of the counties that lost population in the 2020 historic "white DE-population" Census(1st one in 250 years to have that!) voted for him, with Red State life expectancy having grown to YEARS worse than the Blue States and the Wall Street Journal front page headline read "RURAL America is the NEW Inner City" under the orange man, I can tell you that 90%+ Americans, whether Left or Right, don't give two shakes about "bathroom" politics. MLK talked about poor whites and their families being starved by their political masters, i.e. they "eat Jim Crow"; well now many in this country "feast" upon Dr. Seuss's Green Eggs & Ham and hollow plastic Mr. Potatohead! At least for the original Irish famine, blighted potatoes were still real vegetative matter!
90% probably don't care about bathroom politics because they hadn't heard-a the girl that raped in one by what-i-call "penis wearing a dress." Same issue in women's prisons in CA, only 10 times worse. Can You imagine, THE OhioStateBrian? Seriously!
Thank you for another great article. I briefly went through this when my daughter announced one day that she had always been a boy. She was 11 years old. Thank God I had Ms Shrine’s book prior and I immediately knew it was false. I placed a safety app on her phone and I found awful things, from porn stories that the kids were passing around to a TikTok account that I had forbidden her to have. We took the phone away for months and pulled her off of all social media. Long story short, she improved almost instantly.
It’s social media. They are getting these kids through social media. I’m not judging any parent but I think that the Gen X parents like myself have no real idea how bad it is on these platforms and the awful things these kids are being fed. I tell every parent of a kid who doesn’t have a phone to put the safety app on immediately before they even get it into their possession.
Also during this time I looked for a therapist and found one who was not indoctrinated in this horror. They are out there but you have to ask. This therapist also told me that a parent called her and said they brought their daughter to a different therapist because of anxiety issues and that therapist kept talking about how she, the therapist, is gay. This father wanted to know if my therapist was going to do that, in which she replied that her own sexuality was her private matter and nothing to be discussed with a patient.
And one last. Another girl we knew was having gender issues and her therapist told her parents NOT to put a safety app in the phone because the parents need to trust that she’s not getting into things she shouldn’t be. Worst advice ever.
Really need to be careful with therapists. It’s hard to vet them. My daughter’s apparently told her that she (the therapist) is non-binary. How is that helpful? I guess they think it helps them relate to their patient but it’s inappropriate. I also sent this therapist a copy of Irreversible Damage. I hope she read it
"It’s social media. They are getting these kids through social media. I’m not judging any parent but I think that the Gen X parents like myself have no real idea how bad it is on these platforms and the awful things these kids are being fed. I tell every parent of a kid who doesn’t have a phone to put the safety app on immediately before they even get it into their possession."
White male Baby Boomer Presidents: "Slick Willie" "Fun in the Oral Office" Bubba. Cocaine brain Dubya. Agent Orange Mango Mussolini. "Sleepy Joe" Biden.
For the majority of Americans, which is those born AFTER the mid-1980s, it's clear which President is by far the best in their lives in their minds. By far the most moral too.
I'm in my 40s; I was learning about the "facts of life" when my first real memories of Presidential politics was Clinton getting impeached for some very interesting cigar play that later we found out about Gingrich's revolting affairs.
Then again, teenage births peaked in America just before 1960(pre-birth control & the sexual revolution) at almost 100/1000 girls aged 15-19 to then it was still 62/1000 girls just after 1990, but now it's less than 18/1000 girls 15-19! Shocking! Abortions further(and ironically) are the lowest in our recorded history right now; only 1/3rd of their early 1980s peak! Young people of today are having less sex than ever before! Oh, and gay people are the ones getting married today from back in the day it was the closet(and non-closet) types packing the bathhouses!
The White House spokeswoman said, “Instead of focusing on critical kitchen table issues like the economy, COVID, or addressing the country’s mental health crisis, . . . .” What, exactly, is the transgender outbreak if not a mental health issue? I don’t mean that in a mean, pejorative way, just a simple statement of obvious (at least to me) fact.
It is a societal mental health issue where people in all institutions including Education gaslight ("affirm") the young who might otherwise get over it as teens together.
Psaki is a chronic liar, embarrassing even to the largely pro-Biden press corps, and usually has no idea what she's talking about, on any issue. It's small wonder she's leaving. Why does anyone listen to her or take her seriously?
She is a WEF plant like so many (unfortunately) women in political and govt positions these days. Finland and New Zealand's Prime Ministers, the head of then EU etc. This is part of the WEF agenda with a history in Eugenics. Whitney Webbs website has an excellent long article on the roots and funding of the WEF. It provides the why and how behind gender reassignment.
Gender = Sex. Our children should not be getting indoctrinated at school into a cult religion around Gender Identity with sparkly Gender Unicorns and such. It's total grooming.
And, how is it that we are about to have a Supreme Court Justice who does not know what a woman is because she is not a biologist?
Perhaps we should get rid of this silly religious word "transgender" and go back to "transexual" (a confused person in need of compassion and real help).
I agree that we should revert to reality! If you read Abigail’s book, you will learn the cult’s definitions of all their terms. Years ago there were “transvestites,” or “cross-dressers.” There have always been “homosexuals,” to my understandng. Very rarely (Christine Jorgenson--1954?) someone had sex-change operation. While homosexuality has, to my understand, always existed as a minority of the population, it was never a cult. All these other labels are creations in a cult movement that has me very frightened for our younger generations. We have to bear in mind that people in a cult cannot see they are in it! Psaki (as with all true believers) is not evil--she has no idea that her brain has been kidnapped.
Hi, Yes Abigail's book is wonderful. People in a cult don't know they are in a cult. And, many people just go along with pronouns & such because they don't know better. I personally think you are being a too charitable regarding Psaki though... I am skeptical that her brain has been captured so much as she tows any line that works for her career... I was really shocked during the election that no one in the media even discussed how Biden lied and plagiarized during his failed 1988 presidential campaign. In 1988 the newscasters all thought he was finished. And, I don't even care if we have Reps or Dems if we can get out of this! But, it does look like the Dem party has sold it's soul to Gender Identity Ideology and Groomers.
Perhaps I am too charitable, but I will always give people the benefit of the doubt where I have not personally observed reason to do otherwise. I have never seen Psaki operating on her own; only as spokesperson for the WH. But, rest assured I have heard enough lies from that administration to gag a maggot. All admins lie or “fib” or exaggerate. This one bald-faced fabricates more than any I’ve witnessed in my lifetime, and has done so since the inaugural speech (just as he did during the campaign). I have no respect Biden or Harris. Neither are competent, in my view.
On Psaki, I can say I really do not like her condescending tone but am not surprised at the spin and fabrications. How anyone could last this long covering for Biden… well, suffice to say, it’s truly a feat. There is no doubt she’s looking out for HER future, not his, though.
I loved your prescription. Compassion and even respect. But giving into psychosis and confusion is madness, itself. As you point out, these people need help, not Frankenstein medical experiments. You've earned your sobriquet.
MsHugh's 2 pages above from 2014 are very worth reading in their entirety, but I want to call out one paragraph:
"Another subgroup consists of young men and women susceptible to suggestion from "everything is normal" sex education, amplified by Internet chat groups. These are the transgender subjects most like anorexia nervosa patients: They become persuaded that seeking a drastic physical change will banish their psycho-social problems. "Diversity" counselors in their schools, rather like cult leaders, may encourage these young people to distance themselves from their families and offer advice on rebutting arguments against having transgender surgery. Treatments here must begin with removing the young person from the suggestive environment and offering a counter-message in family therapy"
This last bit is nearly impossible to do in our country right now - between having the message everywhere and efforts to outlaw such therapy as "conversion therapy".
Every word. I honestly don't care if Ms. Shrier doesn't publish another article; I will continue to pay this subscription in perpetuity. There are so few people who are putting our children first and this author has done so with integrity. Thank you!
Reading these posts is tough because I’m dealing with a 12 year old daughter who has said they are a he and goes by a new name. My wife is a liberal, feminist and is pro affirming and I’m conservative and very much against an affirming process. The school refers to our child by their preferred pronoun. In January my wife signed our daughter up for a gender clinic that I was opposed to but joined the meeting and put my foot down against any medical interventions with my daughter. My wife says she agrees with this and has said she won’t allow our child to medicate or have operations until they are 18. I basically forced my wife to read Abigail’s book but she says it’s antithesis to her beliefs. I also tried to get her to read the book The Abolition Of Sex because it was written by a self proclaimed democrat feminist (which is what my wife is) but she has not. The author of that book is labeled a TERF so they are seen as a transphobe and an enemy. My wife and I started seeing a Christian counselor for marriage therapy to help with better communication. The therapist has said they don’t have a lot of experience with trans-genderism, but their experience is with couples. She has also seen us together as a family and wants to also have us come in with each of the children separately. Like my wife and my daughter and me and my son. Hopefully this therapist doesn’t pull a 180 degree flip on me.
Oh so sorry for your plight. Not to criticize your wife but it boggles my mind how any feminist is on board with what seems to me as an assault on women. And I’m an old school end of the boomers feminist, but a reformed liberal because they have gone off the rails. Actually I’m probably also and old school liberal, not a crazy leftist. I haven’t voted for a D in a long time. The only way I would do it is if a D took a stand against this gender madness
My 15 year old daughter says she's a he now too. Check out genspect.org and Gender:A Wider Lens podcast. We need to all speak out when we can. This is a lonely place and the land mines are everywhere. Today I have to call our pediatrician to have an appointment regarding some headaches but, I have to talk to whoever answers the phone to let them know we aren't medicalizing and that we don't want blockers/hrt brought up during the appointment. and, we will not permit our child to be in a room alone with the doctor (bcs we trust no one)
I learned that lesson the hard way too. 5 Minutes alone with an otherwise normal seeming pediatrician and learned 6 months later he told my 16 year-old son to visit planned parenthood for hormones.
Do not leave your kids alone with doctors or counselors you haven't thoroughly vetted. Even then, may not be safe.
Family counseling sounds promising. I wouldn't let the girl go to any 1-1 counseling with a Gender Affirming therapist. As for TERF, Biology is not Bigotry. :) I like Tired of Explaining Reality to Fools = TERF. This is my opinion but I think that having her dad quietly call her she/her and use her real name will mean a lot deep down even if she pushes back. Some say they are pushing back against their own reservations. You might take part in one of her interests, demonstrating that whatever it is it is cool for a girl to do and you can share in something unrelated to the Great Matter. Maintaining your relationship with her (and indicating you are not a true believer in Gender) is the most important thing.
Have you two read the article by Dr. Paul McHugh, former psychiatrist in chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital who was on top of this some time ago:
There are a lot of good parent articles on Parents with Inconvenient Truths About Trans: PITT.substack.com where there is no fee for a subscription. Maybe some of them would help you or your wife? You can also post an article there.
There is a liberal feminist sexologist named Dr. Deborah Soh who wrote a book called "The End of Gender". Maybe you and your wife could read that one together? Dr. Soh wants young people to read it rather than academics so it is not at all dense reading. Good luck to you.
Thanks for the recommendation. I would definitely read it but convincing my wife to is probably unlikely to happen. She doesn’t like me trying to change her mind and ignores articles I send to her on the subject of gender. She says she doesn’t like me trying to change her mind on things because she says she does not want to change my mind on what I believe and I think very much angers her when I try to. I read The Abolition of Sex in an afternoon and tried get her to read it because I said it is very important. I also tried to entice her by saying it was written by a democrat liberal feminist. I stressed to her saying how important it was for her to read it but she basically refused to. It would take her less time than me to read it because she reads a lot. Again, thanks, but I don’t know if I will bring it up because it will likely just cause much stress. My wife believes that gender is a spectrum and maybe also a social construct. I didn’t know she believed these things until fairly recently. I think she thinks this is the progression of science and we are learning these things. We don’t talk about these hot button topics very much, other than in therapy because it causes a lot of stress at home.
Good luck to you. Maybe the gender craze will be revealed for what it is/have passed before your daughter ever self harms. There could be something in Dr. Soh's book for you to say to your daughter at just the right time - which might not be at age 12...
I appreciated the father’s letter on this subject. I’m not quite sure why we decided medical interventions were the best, “life saving” care for kids dealing with this.
As someone who has dealt with attempted suicide in my past (and in my siblings’ pasts as well as eating disorders, anxiety, and so forth), I’ve found that often the best “cure” for mental health problems is to just keep climbing over that mountain—not flatten it to make the hike easier.
That’s not to say there aren’t people out there who aren’t just happier living outside the traditional norms associated with their biological gender, but the person you are at 15 and the person you are at 30 are two different people. External factors shouldn’t be the things that “affirm” who you are whether it be tattoos or hormone treatments.
think teenage years are difficult for the teen and parent to maneuver, in additional to the rapid physical/psychological growth, change for the child becoming an adult, the parent-child relationship is also evolving.
thinking back, it can be a lonely time... and a time when the teen needs (craves) reassurance that their parent is still looking out for them / their best interests, even as peer pressure makes it not cool to verbalize this desire.
Medical interventions, like the BS treatment of COVID, in any area is about one thing- money- period. These doctors don't care-- they are as inhumane as those who think such mutilation is "life saving"
As I read this I couldn't help recall the way party ideology infected all aspects of life in the former Soviet Union. Whether literature, art, drama, youth organizations, law, sports and, sadly, medicine, everything was corrupted and bent to the party's dogma and will. Probably not surprising that Psaki's ever-changing hair color remains red, as she is the perfect spokesperson for the leftist insanity that, like a bacillus, has infected most of the Democrat Party. Not least of which is the gender nonsense that passes for "medicine" under these totalitarian lunatics. Even up to less than a decade ago, gender dysphoria was viewed as a psychiatric disorder. Now the "prescribed treatment" is a cocktail of bizarre chemicals leading to a Frankenstein surgery that seldom if ever works. And they call this medical "progress?" What's next - going back to blood letting as "medical science?" Clearly under the Sovietization of America by the Democrat Party, no perversion, no bizarre rite is to be criticized if the collective deems it sufficiently "woke." This is madness. Thanks, Abigail, for calling it out and continuing to tell the truth.
Thank you Abigail! Please please please start saying boys and girls? In recent weeks at least 4 detrans males have publicly written about their experiences. The concept of "pink pilling" through grooming taking place in forums on Reddit and Discord is real. These are in particular very sensitive boys, often quite immature and on the spectrum, often gay and many times overwhelmed by the "toxic masculinity" they have been hearing about throughout their upbringing- and don't forget the pervasive internet porn. Many of them see opting out of manhood as necessary to ensure they do not fit this narrative. Please don't forget our sons! They also are being swept up in this! Thank you.
My hunch is that many girls, too, are affected by internet portrayals of sex in porn. I imagine it would be pretty scary if they see some of the violent stuff, and what a relief it would be to think, "Oh, I'm a boy! I won't have to be XXX'd etc."
Ms shrier thank you for your book and insight. Unfortunately it was too late for my daughter. Much like the cases you presented,I dropped off a successful, happy beautiful daughter to UCLA at 18. Within 6 months she declared that all men were rapists, within a year she denounced me as an obstacle complicit with the patriarchy and within 2 years with the help of Ucla Med center at 19 she fast tracked herself to hormones and top surgery.
And just like that this cult took my daughter.
I grieve her absence from morning to evening everyday
I am so sorry for your loss and cannot even imagine the pain you must be experiencing. Hopefully someday your daughter can be deprogrammed once she gets a bit more wisdom and life experience.
The Crit Theory cult (of which Gender is a branch) is truly malevolent and they do not care about your daughter or anyone's daughter, they are on a demented crusade to dismantle every institution in this country and replace its leaders with commissars who share their miserable faith.
Someday they will try to deny what they've done, they will say "Oh, we didn't know better," or "We were just trying to help, it was a good cause," which is the same excuse every destructive pseudo-reformer has used to wave away their crimes.
But we will know better and we will have to make sure they are held accountable.
May they burn in Hell. This one from Parents with Inconvenient Truths About Trans, "PITT" is a little more secular than my comment...
"International Right to Truth Day on March 24th"
https://pitt.substack.com/p/international-right-to-truth-day?s=r
"Society must defeat this Gender Ideology cult craze, and it will. But think past simply defeating it: a dangerous Gnostic delusion has destroyed the lives of countless young people, and it did so with near-unanimous institutional and media support. Think past victory and start thinking about justice and reform. Thousands of children were harmed psychologically and many physically butchered - even as they believed they were finding their “authentic selves”. We vow to never, ever let this happen to other children. So what will we do after we have defeated this cult?"
Yes, there should be trials and convictions. There will need to be dedicated academic study into this phenomenon, explorations of how it came about and was defeated. But we are a long way from that yet when the president of the US is such an extreme member of the cult. On his very first day in office he made it a priority to underscroe the genderist assault on children and women.
Biden showed his colors at a town hall before the election - applauding the "transition" of an 8 year old girl. At this point I don't think he is aware of what he is doing but whoever is running things at the White House certainly has a crazy unhealthy/destructive agenda on this matter. I think we are going to need a museum about what happened. Planning for that could show we are serious. Things could shift really suddenly. People are gaining more awareness via the men in sports fiasco. There could be a sudden preference cascade. And, we need to vote out anyone who does not speak out against Gender Ideology and stand up for the kids and young people and women. What is happening in education is enormously unpopular.
Yes, LM. The people must send a strong message to stop this "gender" insanity once and for all before any more children or adults are harmed.
I can only imagine what horrors might be in this museum. Let's start with a video of a 12 year old girl undergoing a double mastectomy so she can "live her authentic life."
Agree.
Second up in the museum might be "The Call is Coming From Inside the House" documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBInNGgdF2M
No, Marek.
Abigail Shrier is a brave woman going against all odds striving to protect children from being at best sexualized and worst having their bodies mutilated. She's putting her own life on the line to protect vulnerable people.
The scary part is how we move on and recover from these kinds of things (cultural shift) is usually a world war.
The article above, "International Right to Truth Day on March 24th"
https://pitt.substack.com/p/international-right-to-truth-day?s=r
suggests that some people can/should be persuaded and forgiven but others who are complicit require pressures and lawsuits, etc:
"Be like Churchill at Tehran. Be picky. Prioritize. Distinguish between degrees of bad guys, and go after them accordingly, with appropriate tools:
Category 1: Polite persuasion, forgiveness, rapid reintegration Category 2: Social/civil pressure Category 3: Civil law Category 4: Criminal law Category 5: Maybe, just maybe, international crimes-against-humanity law."
I do not think it is too early to work through the first 4 categories on this list.
Do you consider drug abusers to be "victims" of evil pushers rather than people of low character who readily succumb to temptation. It's one thing when a child or adolescent is duped into sex dysphoria - but, an adult (18 year-old college student) has no one blame but herself.
I would consider anyone of any age who is conned into disfiguring surgery / damaging drugs to be a victim entitled to restitution. These teenagers are psychologically manipulated prior to being physically altered.
Yes, they are steeped in the ideology for years in high school before they have take hormones and have surgery.
The con man is indeed guilty of wrong-doing, but only people of low character become their willing dupes. Answer my question - is a drug user a "victim"?
I wouldn’t pre-judge anyone as a ‘willing dupe’ or ‘low character’. You are making determinations about situations and people you know nothing about.
You're full of humanist bah-loney and a muddle-headed thinker. I do not "judge" people at all - they define themselves by their actions. I have no sympathy for ADULT addicts or suicides or bizarre mental disorders or criminals.
Children - CLEARLY - are a different issue. They do not have the cognitive development to be able to resist temptations and tricksters. That adults fail to develop character is unfortunate, but it's their problem and is almost entirely iuncurable. Protecting and enabling them is destructive to the species.
Exactly
My child was the epitome of good student socially engaged and grounded
If they can take care any kid with even the slightest anxiety in college has no chance
The young people are groomed for "gender". It is likely a different matter if the person is 50, like Richard Levine (AGP).
For the young it is pretty much a cult where they are mentally separated from families who love them and trained to think they are something other than what they are. The mind is still maturing at the ages when these people who have vowed to "do no harm" give them hormones and perform surgeries. Think NXIVM or HeavenGate or JonesTown but without one specific leader. Instead it is institutionalized everywhere in Education, Medicine, and Law. But, there is no such thing as a "Transgender" person. There are CFM (Cosmetically Feminized Men) and CMW (Cosmetically Masculinzed Women). The fully grown people do it for sexual reasons like fetish - see Dr. Deborah Soh "The End of Gender". The young people - teens & twenties are in a cult and people are making $$$ off of their naivety.
You're making up nonsense and believing nonsense. Learn biology -- learn genetics -- learn psychology.
Again you have not faced off with this cult if you think they dupe only people if low character
So, you agree with me that most people are dupes.
I really hope that nothing bad ever happens to you where you need to use strong pain medication for more than 3 months. Why? Drug user. Low character. Would apply to you. We will all put our hands in our pocket to buy you the T shirt. Drug users can be victims. Why? Many drug abusers are trying to find a, way to shut out the voices in their heads. Drug users all say they are not victims but can control their drug use. The majority can otherwise everyone who drinks alcohol would be totally disfunction and the western world would collapse. Some people will have an issue with drugs. They are not of low character any more than you are, although from your comments on here, we could assume that you are of low character by the way you speak of others. People have issues, people deal with their issues. You may not approve but nobody is asking for your approval. And you are entitled to your opinions, just think about where you put them.
I suggest you not waste your time arguing with this person. Any time someone attacks the person he’s arguing with is the time to walk away because he is not interested in discussion, learning, or educating. He’s interested in forcing his views on you. He’s interested in overpowering you. The individual you’re battling with here is consistently using ad hominem as his modus operandi. Keep up your own good work, and bless you for it!
You blather.
"Answer my question - is a drug user a 'victim'"?
Perhaps you'll never know until you walk a mile in their shoes.
You don't realize how logically incoherent that statement is, do you?
Drug users land along a spectrum. Many use drugs occasionally for pleasure and short "altered states" which is something humans have engaged in for thousands of years. On the other side of the spectrum are those whose lives are incredibly painful with so many unmet needs that they struggle to ever be in a sober state. To punish an addict is to make their life even more painful and exacerbate the problem. Addicts don't need to be punished, they need community, a sense of meaning and purpose.
When a person turns 18, they don't immediately become a mature, high functioning adult. They are the same person as they were the day before, when they were 17 and still a child. I'm curious why you think you are the one to judge who is of "low character"?
Thank for the standard, irrational humanist perspective.
I am sorry, but it is necessary to be blunt:
You are very much mistaken and your assumption has no basis in science.
Even you as a human being are susceptible, under the right circumstances, to mental illness.
That's my point - humans are subject to mental illness. I never said otherwise. What I said is they are NOT victims - especially those who CHOOSE their destructive poisons.
Do you think there are no "bad" people in the world? What I'm arguing is that you fail to place blame where it belongs. You are not thinking logically, but emotionally, and your sympathies are misplaced. That's because the humanists have brain-washed you. They were able to do so because you are weak-minded.
Legally, an adult, so yes, responsible for her decisions. However, we now know that the frontal cortex is not fully developed in most humans until they are about 25, so perhaps this situation merits a tiny bit of empathy and not just finger-wagging moral superiority.
Yes, the brain is not fully developed until somewhere in the mid 20s but hormones and surgeries are promoted younger and younger and labeled "life saving affirming care". Planned parenthood hands "T" out with no gatekeeping at all. And, college campuses are in the hormones and "sex change" operation business on the parents' insurance dime without informing them. I don't think you can get your vision laser corrected until 26 because the eye is still changing.
You've bought into the pop psychology nonsense about brain development. The evidence is not there for that claim. Development (change over time) is a LIFE-LONG process. Different brain function mature at a different times in different people. You're being duped by bogus, "sciencey" claims of ideology-motivated pseudoscientists and the medias' distorted reporting of same.
It's like global warming and COVID - nothing conclusive has been demonstrated to support the claims regarding either - it's all "expert" speculation and "authoritative" claims. The well-controlled studies either contradict (the efficacy of masking for e.g.) or fail to support the claims.
I really cannot care much about COVID or Global warming right now one way or another - I have to say. These young people are suckered into a cult ideology at a very young age. Everyone around them including all authorities and institutions promote and affirm the Gender Religion. Once these kids are in the cult they are easy fodder for profiteering doctors. When left alone most of them mature out of it around their mid twenties. Many of them mature out of it around that time after having suffered permanent physical harm. There are 26,000 regretful detransitioners on a subreddit - and these are just the 20 somethings who are up to posting about their experience. The more steps these kids take with social tranistion and then hormones the harder it is for them mentally to turn around and desist. And, only parents tell them they should.
I do not see the point of your post... Why should we be teaching Gender Ideology at School like it is scientific fact?
People's character is largely fixed by the age of 12. Neither YOU nor anyone else knows anything about the relationship of the frontal cortex to character - that's pseudoscience.
Empathy for the depraved is callousness for the decent. Try thinking.
Maybe you should read shrier book oh all knowing righteous one !
I don't read - I write. I don't need the guidance of ideologists.
I've read similar, that many of us fail to factor in the long-term consequences of our actions until we are well into our twenties. It's a complex world, more so than it has ever been. Small wonder that so many of the young are having difficulty differentiating fact from fantasy.
As for their older enablers, they have no excuse.
That's right and it's why I make a distinction between protecting kids and protecting adults.
The encouragement of gender fantasies and transitioning is destructive lunacy - children must be protected from the psychopaths who promote such damaging ideas. However, we have to accept the reality that kids differ in their innate capacity to resist loony ideas and some will succumb to them when they achieve autonomy. It's the same with drug addiction - kids of innately strong character will not have a problem resisting upon exposure - the genetically defective will yield to it.
Children should be protected and given a chance to mature. Adults are cooked and are not deserving of the money and energy wasted trying to "save" them. To do so is to practice dysgenics. Ironically, humanists who oppose eugenics have no problem with promoting dysgenics (rationalizing and enabling the depraved).
Brain development is not completed until the age of 25 - so no, nobody who succumbs to predatory pushers below that age is fully in possession of their faculties, whatever the legal age of adulthood may be.
Pop psychology pseudoscience. So, no one under the age of 25 is responsible for his bad acts? You make my point - not that you'd realize it.
People are responsible proportionate to their developmental stage. Fact: brain development is not fully completed until approximately age 25. Ingesting brain/hormone altering substances at any stage before that can be more dangerous or disruptive to development. The brain goes through a sort of neurological pruning process between the ages of approx 17-25. This is quite often when schizophrenia begins to develop and there is some good evidence suggesting this process going awry may be the cause. This is the period when schizophrenia most ofen first manifests in those who have it. It's known that as little as a single episode of drug or alcohol abuse can trigger it in some people. This is obviously not directly on the point of puberty blockers or hormones but it is illustrative of how damaging the ingestion of puberty blockers (for younger people) - and hormones could be. There is criminally little research on the full range and longer term effects of either. If a person who has latent or incipient schizophrenia were also to take hormones and puberty blockers the consequences could be severe. Either way, brain development is still not complete until approx 25yrs of age.
I made no mention of chronological age. I made a distinction between children and mature adults. You don't have a clue when brain development is "complete" - you're just reciting pop psychobabble nonsense.
You think there are no vulnerable adults! Do you know any drug users who are having to prostitute themselves for money for drugs? I do. I worked with adult drug users for many years and know there are as many reasons for their use as there are people who use. As for young adults being inducted into the church of trans. It is hard to leave home as a young woman in thus world. It is hard to work out what is right and what is wrong. I M ow I was one such young woman. Trans was not the issue, but living with "unsuitable and dangerous" people in a squat and doing things that were not legal were. I am lucky! What I did didn't negatively impact my life.
Please have some humility when it comes to judging others as it might all come back on you in the future.
I said the opposite - learn to read. Your just feeling sorry for your own shortcomings and making excuses by blaming "circumstances" or "others."
I've already said, I do NOT "judge" others - THEY define themselves by their behaviors.
I can read!! And you are so judgemental... No, people do not define themselves only by their behaviours but by the way they treat others. And you stand out as judgemental and full of yourself,i.e not a very civilised or bright individual. Have a nice life!
You've gone hysterical.
This whole "conversation" (if it could even be CALLED that) has gone a little sideways.
I'll just ask this one question of You, hominid: Are You wrong often? In Your own mind, I mean.
Please don’t feed the troll!
Derailing the conversation would seem to be Hominid's aim. He doesn't want to allow Abigail's readers to be able to gather and respond together to her article. (Vested interest, much?). Hence his illogical, non sequitur, scattergun trolling, flooding the comments section.
People who act in bad faith to disrupt... oh nevermind. Life's too short. And if Hominid has a go at this comment, I'll not take the bait.
I'm not often wrong about the points I make because I do not offer opinions based on wishful thinking or pop culture myths, but rather on hard evidence with which I'm familiar. Where I lack knowledge of such evidence, I keep my mouth shut and try to learn.
I feel sorry for you. You seem to be a fantasist, but I do hope you have evidence re what you have just put on this site as I can see her suing you for slander. Don't know what book you read but I don't think it was the book she actually wrote.
You are naive and cruel if you think that. What I am trying to communicate is that extremely powerful forces and incentive structure will kidnap your child and all of society will fight me the parent to rescue her.
You have obviously not lost or been humbled
When Dean Rusk turned 60 Andrei Gromyko welcomed him to the world of adults. Simply put 18 year olds, regardless of what the law says are not adults.
That's not the issue. Try to focus.
Go back and try to understand what you wrote. You have mindlessly accepted the idea that one is an "adult " at age 18. Anybody over 40 would understand that one doesnot automatically become an adult at age 18.
No, I did not. I mentioned nothing about chronological age p that was someone else. YOU "go back" and try to follow the thread as it emerged.
Your analogy creates a false dichotomy. A doctor/patient relationship is not comparable to a drug pusher/addict. Or shouldn't be anyway. A medical doctor is licensed by their state's medical board. Physicians have a duty to 'do no harm'. Drug dealers are criminals who do whatever they want unless they're caught. A child seeking out unnecessary, irreversible surgery should be told 'No' by a responsible, ethical doctor.
teachers should also be required to adhere to the oath of ‘first do no harm’
Learn reality. One person's harm is another person's boon. Ever heard the quip, "There is no free lunch"?
Idealistic blather.
Said the pot to the kettle.
Hey, dummy - ask an abortion doctor if he does harm. You dunces think it's a matter of you're "right" and the opposition is "wrong" or you're "good" and they're "bad." While many might agree with your ethics (myself included) your opponents see it the other way around. Ergo, the right vs wrong argument is utterly stupid. Your goal must be VICTORY - you have to IMPOSE your ethical standards on the nation.
18 is a young adult. Colleges and universities are "trans/queer/gender identity" indoctrination centers now. Parents send their young adults to colleges and universities for higher education, not indoctrination. No, it is not the fault of the young adult or parent, that colleges and universities have become indoctrinations centers, IF, the young adult or parent did not know this in the first place.
It IS the fault of the duped. That's your problem - you've bought into humanist mythology. You're an excuse-maker.
Duped means tricked/deceived. It IS the fault of those deliberately deceiving children and young adults. Even the elderly get are targeted for deception/scams because of their age.
Children and the aged are exceptions - why do I have to keep saying that?
But, weak-mindedness is the reason dupes are dupable.
I've explained this at length. If you subscribe to fallacious humanist ideology that tells you to accept (even celebrate) deficiencies, you embrace dysgenics and will suffer the consequences you and others are whining about (miseducation, perversion, drug abuse, criminality, etc). Are you incapable of grasping that logical concept?
It is this emotion-based "empathy and sympathy" that enables the problems to reach destructive levels. Only if humanists stop defending losers and let natural selection work its magic will the problems recede. Read the biological reality of Darwin and put down the Bible and Marxist Manifesto. Learn reality and stop believing myths.
Addiction is a blight. This is a way too simplistic look at
Humans. It doesn’t reflect neuroscience. Addiction is a big behavior driver as well as sex. It is curbed thru morals which are influenced by religion and parenting. But when the parent or god isn’t there…well. Its absolutely about the abuser or dealer. There should be no mercy for them.
Totally unsubstantiated humanist mythology. Neuroscience shows exactly the opposite - personality traits and resultant behaviors of adults are mainly genetically determined. God is mystical nonsense.
Ah yes truly anti-human and a technocrat. Find a new sandbox to play
Interesting. So you don’t think humans are foragers? God is part of the eons of morality teaching of our forebears designed to inhibit those behaviors. Its why the lack of it that will be our undoing. You've proven it today.
Baseless assertion.
Redemption is baloney - like rehab - a humanist con job. God is logically incoherent.
I am certainly glad that you have deigned to share your brilliance with us.
So, would you have your car mechanic diagnose your cardiac symptoms? Do you realize how stupid your comments are?
While there is nothing any of us can do for HG's daughter, there is something we can do for our own: stop sending our kids to universities that want to harm them! I've met lots of great parents (even home educating ones) who did everything right until age 18. Then they proudly sent their kids off to Harvard or UCLA or Berkeley or MIT or Stanford, not knowing that they were paying thousands of dollars to a cult. Now we know. We can no longer claim ignorance. So how many of us are going to stop sending our kids to these places?
We've told our 3 daughters that we will not pay for any Ivy League or similar level school. If it's a big name in US News, it's likely off our list. However, there are lots of schools that provide a great (in many way better) education. Hillsdale College is rapidly becoming the homeschool Harvard. Christendom, Ozarks, PHC (somewhat), maybe U of Austin (if they get it off the ground). There are many others, but you have to be willing to forgo the "big name" and the resulting (slim) chance to make it into the elite of America.
We've decided that truth is more important than Harvard (ironic considering its motto.) How many others are willing to "live not by lies" as Solzhenitsyn said?
BTW: HG, my heart goes out to you. Just make sure your daughter knows that however much she's mutilated herself physically, however miserable she becomes spiritually, she will always have a place at home. That's all you can do. The rest is up to her.
Thanks for your words Brian
I would give anything to go back to the day her UCLA acceptance came. I wish I could tell them to shove their acceptance and scholarship up their …
Parents should absolutely not allow their kids to go these universities
Yes.
I have three daughters. The oldest is 10 right now, but when we talk about college we talk up Hillsdale (where my Godparents went, and which is near my parents' house), Franciscan University of Steubenville (my alma mater), and similar schools like Thomas Aquinas, Ave Maria, and University of Dallas.
Yes. Stuebenville and Aquinas are on my list. I didn't know about U of Dallas, but I'll look into it. Anyone else have suggestions from their own research?
U of Dallas may be good now, but it takes federal student loans, and unless it has a plan to forgo that funding source, it will eventually cave. The federal student loan program has already been used to enforce social engineering regarding race and sexual orientation. It will be used as a club against Christian universities the same way gay marriage laws are being used as a club against Catholic adoption agencies (Bethany, the largest Protestant agency, already caved.)
Very well said!
BTW, I can vouch for Hillsdale College. I have been a supporter for years, living mere miles away. They have many classes available on line and and free.
What is the root cause of most of our problems?
THE SYSTEMS THAT GOVERN OUR LIVES HAVE BEEN CORRUPTED
This is our #1 issue. We cannot rank anything higher than this issue. It is an issue we can and should all agree on. All political sides and all people.
It is like having a computer that has been hacked and corrupted. When we sit here arguing about hot button or other issues that is like arguing about what programs run better on the corrupted computer. NONE of them run better. Not until we fix the system. We have to put all of our attention on focusing on fixing the ACTUAL SYSTEM first. It's not that hard to do actually. We just need a movement. A decentralized one. And a plan.
What is the solution? Our systems have been corrupted by regulatory capture and special interest groups - we can't expect the system to fix itself. We need a NEW idea. One that makes the old one obsolete.
If our problem is systemic corruption the best cure is radical FORCED TRANSPARENCY.
I beg all of you to read this, and then join in the solutions minded comments. It is totally free:
https://joshketry.substack.com/p/what-we-need-is-a-transparency-movement
empathy for your situation, it is a predatory cult preying on impressionable youth. those complicit need to be held accountable.
Thank you for your comment.
Righteous people like above have mo idea what powerful force we are dealing with. Putting down my child as low character will not help get rid of this child trap for other parents
I am so sorry. Reading this quite literally broke my heart. I fan’t imagine how you feel. Best to keep kids away from colleges now. I say that as an adjunct. These places are indoctrination centers now.
You are absolutely right
I can’t emphasize the transformation of my child in merely 18 months at UCLA.
Gawd, my heart hurts for you and your daughter. I pray she will come back. 🤗
This experience is truely a nightmare that I didn’t see coming
I can’t even pray anymore
My heart absolutely breaks for you.
I grew up near Ann Arbor, and know several families - liberal, progressive parents - who did nothing but "affirm affirm affirm" every single pronoun change and bespoke "Gender", and their daughters still went to college, accused them of being "abusers", mutilated themselves, and broke off all contact.
They are devastated.
I will keep you and your daughter in my prayers.
Don't blame yourself.
Let us pray for you, HG. I'm so sorry.
I am so sorry to hear this. This is truly heartbreaking.
I warn parents everywhere (myself as a parent included!) to avoid sending their children to liberal universities, no matter how prestigious, unless the child is very Firmly Set in conservative beliefs and not vulnerable to peer pressure (my little brother fits in that category). Most people are vulnerable to peer pressure. These schools brainwash these kids to a horrific degree.
Just like your daughter, they are wonderful, normal happy children before college & college transforms them into something else. Many children go to college then turn away from their families, hate their parents, become AntiFa extremists, some become terrorists, some join ISIS. There is no way to predict.
Warning to Parents everywhere: Do not send your children to liberal universities. It is NOT worth it. It will destroy their lives. Unless they have Firm Grounding & are completely impervious to peer pressure (there are rare people with that gift)
I tell this to every parent I know
I live in California ;not for long )
I tell every parent to forget the entire UC system. Send them to Hillsdale Christian university anywhere but the liberal organizations. My daughter had no preexisting factors, by the time I realized what I was dealing with she was 19 and I was powerless
UCLA did everything in their power to speed this up. I am a physician and I hope the ones that treats my daughter have hell waiting for them
I'm a physician too, with young kids
completely agree. they deserve hell for doing this to kids. they know what they're doing.
I'm sorry this happened to you and your daughter <3 I hope she recovers someday
thank u for telling me & other parents, I'll spread the word too to avoid these horrible institutions
Girls afraid of men. Who wouldn't be in this hyper-sexed environment? Most of today's pop culture is pornographic. I personally know girls raped at a young age that became lesbian. Maybe this is also a factor to consider.
right, exactly. this could be a fear/way to insulate yourself from what may be portrayed as very scary.
I'm sorry for you and your family. Change the name of the school are our daughter's story is virtually identical. As is the grief.
I am sorry to hear that. I am a physician and I know for a fact that they are suppressing the data on hormone therapy especially in girls. High testosterone levels are a detrimental to the female body. First their thyroid gland stops working by 20s by 30s their liver shows dysfunction by 40s their heart. I am watching my daughter die in slow motion
Someone quite seriously needs to take this one on as malpractice and negligence. Its truly time to scare them away from doing these. I am so so sorry. Everytime. I read another parent replying to your original post my heart breaks. Luckily I have boys and they are both alpha males. I just don't see it ever happening thank god. We joke about all the time instead like today I am a man. Tomorrow I am a woman. But it doesn't seem so funny anymore.
alpha males is good. we need more of those
hope they find good wives & raise good kids!
Any idea if that is reversible if they desist? Or is there insufficient data to tell at this point?
According to my reading. The testosterone effects on the liver and cardiovascular systems are cumulative and irreversible. Women simply don’t have the enzymes to metabolize testosterone like men do. So the products lingers in their systems. The liver works overtime ti get rid of it and of course it can’t.
Fertility is irreversible after a few years
The effects on their voice is irreversible right away so is hair growth.
Hi HG, Maybe you would like to add your story to the many others on Parent's with Inconvenient Truths About Trans? I think you just need to send an email to PITT@substack.com. You might include what you know about the UC System and the effect of Testosterone on girls & women. We are living through a scandal of epic proportion. I suspect most of the girls are steeped in the ideology for some years before they show any signs of it affecting them. I heard Gender Ideology spewing from a friend of my daughter's here and there for some time and never dreamed such nonsense would have an effect.
I am very sorry for your family tragedy. - LM
HG. My heart goes out to you. I truly hope you will be reunited with your daughter again someday soon.
Note to other parents: the University of California will indeed indoctrinate your children. The organization is controlled by activists from the UC Regents through the administrations of the schools and the hospitals.
think the best strategy is to assume indoctrination will happen and start a dialogue as early as possible with your child so they recognize it and reject it... probably easier said than done.
So your daughter who believes that all men are rapists and that you are a patriarchal obstacle rebels by ....
"becoming" a man? How does this sad event even make internal sense?
It makes no sense at all. This ideology via completely irrational
I agree completely. They are in a cult and they cannot speak logically about it. You cannot reason a person out of a religion and everyone around the girl celebrates them.
My daughter has stage 4 cancer. I would take that over this cult. At least I have a chance at saving my child. I am sorry for all the families that have to endure this. It’s a nightmare.
surreal.
What is the root cause of most of our problems?
THE SYSTEMS THAT GOVERN OUR LIVES HAVE BEEN CORRUPTED
This is our #1 issue. We cannot rank anything higher than this issue. It is an issue we can and should all agree on. All political sides and all people.
It is like having a computer that has been hacked and corrupted. When we sit here arguing about hot button or other issues that is like arguing about what programs run better on the corrupted computer. NONE of them run better. Not until we fix the system. We have to put all of our attention on focusing on fixing the ACTUAL SYSTEM first. It's not that hard to do actually. We just need a movement. A decentralized one. And a plan.
What is the solution? Our systems have been corrupted by regulatory capture and special interest groups - we can't expect the system to fix itself. We need a NEW idea. One that makes the old one obsolete.
If our problem is systemic corruption the best cure is radical FORCED TRANSPARENCY.
I beg all of you to read this, and then join in the solutions minded comments. It is totally free:
https://joshketry.substack.com/p/what-we-need-is-a-transparency-movement
When you posted the same comment over and over about Ms Shrier I took you to simply be some sort of troll. Here I see you have real and passionate concerns but I think you are very mistaken in your interpretations of what you observe. If you are truly for children, you won’t find a better advocate than Abigail Shrier, so please do read her book.
Exactly where did Abigail Shrier ever say anything even remotely like “promoted the rape of children”? Please provide exact quote and date of article.
Thank you for making it abundantly clear that you have chosen to concoct the most twisted meaning possible of Shrier’s statement. “Exposing” a person, child or adult, to “ideas” is not even vaguely condoning pedophilia. Do you have children? What do you teach them? Do you think you have a right to teach them what you do?
Exactly what legislation by Sen. Tom Cotton would make pedophilia a parental right? Please post a link.
Exactly where did Nellie Bowles “agree the pedophilia should be a parental right”? Provide exact quote and date of article.
I have seen no evidence in any of Abigail Shrier’s writings efforts to sway public opinion to normalize pedophilia. Please provide exact quotes and dates of her writings so we can see how you are forming these bizarre interpretations and incredible accusations.
I ordered 5 of your books at our local, extremely leftist bookstore. I will buy 3 and leave 2. That’s how I get these important books into places that would NEVER carry them on their shelves. They’re stuck with them. I also get great satisfaction from the actual order process. It usually takes 3 attempts but my efforts pay off and they take my money for the books. Excellent investigation and exposure of this horrific experiment on our children. God Bless you Abigail.
Ditto that is what I do-- drop them off free at our local library. 🥰
Does the library put them on the shelf or discard them and deny knowledge of them?
I've worked in both bookstores and libraries and the chances are good the books won't make it to the shelves, in either case...but I would not let that stop me!
It may be the staff member who picks up the book is the one who most needs it.
FYI---libraries are very embedded in this charade, so not wanting to be part of promoting lies, I retired at 54. I don't miss it.
Hahaha that’s a very good idea!
Thank you!!! I will do the same!!!!
Comments like this are what happens when you go off your meds without talking to your psychiatrist, Marek. And you better be very careful about veiled threats like your last sentence. You aren’t smart enough to avoid getting caught beforehand if you actually decide to go through with something.
That letter almost made me cry! I can only imagine the terror a parent must feel watching their child being brainwashed and contemplating self-mutilation.
I don't know what is more morally grotesque, the gender cult's desperate desire to castrate children to validate their own life choices and insecurities (like all fundamentalists they need to turn children into puppets who sing from their hymnal) or the way the Democratic Party along with the media have blindly vengefully pushed this crusade to the point now where not teaching 'gender' to 6yr olds is some sort of hate crime.
The Democrats and the media have really painted themselves into a corner on this one--in their social circles, trans people are sacred victims, not just a protected class but a holy caste, and saying NO to any of their demands is worse than a breach of etiquette, it is blasphemy. This has become a religious crusade for them so there is no off-ramp, no brakes, they simply do not have the vocabulary to confront or disagree w the gender cult.
I voted Democrat in every election from 1992-2016. I will never vote for one again until they find a cure for the Crit Theory virus that has eaten their brains.
"I voted Democrat in every election from 1992-2016. I will never vote for one again until they find a cure for the Crit Theory virus that has eaten their brains."
Same here!!! My whole family switched
Agree. I think we must stop using their language. There are no "trans people". There are Cosmetically Feminized Men (CFM) and Cosmetically Masculinized Women (CMF). The Dems really have backed themselves into a corner (everyone of them I can think of other than Tulsi Gabbard). But, I have been disappointed with establishment Republicans who have not considered this issue a priority. Governor Cox of UT even recently spoke to school children at a "Kids Town Hall" , introducing himself with pronouns and encouraging them to do so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvXvsWI6jFw
yeah, unfortunately once you turn away from Democrats it means you have to contemplate the Republicans, who are also vile...(and i also try never to use any Gender Studies language, as it is not meant to communicate or enlighten but to manipulate and distort, but at the same time I try to be polite and not degrade anyone. It is important in all this not to become as repulsive as the people you oppose.)
Cheers!
I agree about being polite and never degrading anyone! It is a problem though that we are told to use Gender Studies language because not to do so is impolite/degrading and we are then called ugly names. We shouldn't gaslight people but politely show them we do not buy into unreality. I believe in compassion for all. That is not the same as agreeing with mentally disordered thinking.
And, I do not think we should have so many people with a mental disorder themselves in positions of power in public health. It is one thing for a man of 50 to decide he wants feminizing surgery. It is another when he has a powerful position he uses to push an ideology and to push medicalizing young people, as Levine did recently at Duke University.
I agree with you that there are plenty of foul politicians on both sides of the isle. But, I will vote for anyone who will turn this ship around. Once that is done we can see who to vote in or out...
💯% in agreement to the extent that we recognize that which silly politician we vote for next has, if anything, practically nothing to do with it. The seeds of this devastation were sown long back, germanated and took root during several political regimes. There are powers-that-be at an invisible helm in this blight on civilization. Follow the $$. All identity groups are mere pawns, our babies are being forged into tools to perpetuate the Marxist-totalitarian march. The devastated, crushed, and destroyed families are just necessary collateral damage as far as the perpetrators are concerned. We have been subjected to it before, but apparently not learned, that humans can do unspeakable things. What’s being done to the children now is worse because it has been made “speakable” through the grotesque twisting of reality and by brainwashing minds as young as pre-school, and with threats and cudgels held over terrified parents who protest. “Lose your child to our cult, or lose her to suicide.”
100% agree as well. This is the closing part of an article I referenced earlier:
"High-level professionals can and do commit crimes against humanity. A doctor who performs unethical human experimentation is a criminal. After the famous Nuremberg trial came twelve lesser-known "Subsequent Nuremberg trials." In the first, The Doctors' Trial, 21 of the 23 defendants were medical doctors. Sixteen were found guilty. Seven were hanged.
A judge who enforces twisted laws is a criminal. Like Oswald Rothaug. The fact that he’s a judge, a highly educated person entrusted with enforcing duly enacted laws, doesn’t make it better, it makes it worse. He never carried a gun; he carried a gavel. That’s enough. (At the third Subsequent Nuremberg trial Judge Rothaug was sentenced to life imprisonment for crimes against humanity.)
In the other ten, civilian government officials were tried for crimes against humanity. Leading businessmen, too:
“There was no opportunity for prosperity. ... We thought that Hitler would give us such a healthy environment. Indeed he did do that. ... We Krupps never cared much about [political] ideas. We only wanted a system that worked well and allowed us to work unhindered. Politics is not our business.” -Alfried Krupp, 1947
Remind you of anyone in Big Pharma?
Human rights law has ample precedent for trying civilian politicians for crimes against humanity. Professionals and businessmen and intellectuals, too. There is no reason for us to feel squeamish about this prospect. If anything, these “elite” people are worse than the dumb brute with a gun, and deserve harsher punishment. They know what they’re doing. Their mistakes poison the entire system.
This is a long battle but don’t despair. For crimes against humanity, there is no statute of limitations. And no sovereign immunity for politicians."
https://pitt.substack.com/p/international-right-to-truth-day?s=r
There are links.
Same article suggests that some people can be persuaded and forgiven:
"Be like Churchill at Tehran. Be picky. Prioritize. Distinguish between degrees of bad guys, and go after them accordingly, with appropriate tools:
Category 1: Polite persuasion, forgiveness, rapid reintegration
Category 2: Social/civil pressure
Category 3: Civil law
Category 4: Criminal law
Category 5: Maybe, just maybe, international crimes-against-humanity law."
"But, I have been disappointed with establishment Republicans who have not considered this issue a priority. "
100% !
There are many establishment GOP (and Dems) who are just there to get $$$$ from Corporations & their sole purpose is tax cuts & whatever Corporations want. They care Zero about parents & American families. We have to call them out. We have to vote them out. Make it known. If they don't fight for American families & American values, vote them out. If all they do is tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts & that's it, if their focus is CEO's & not families, we vote them out!
Good politicians from what I've seen: DeSantis, Marco Rubio, Josh Hawley, Tom Cotton, Mike Huckabee
I go back to McGovern in '72. I'm of same opinion as You, Clever Pseudonym. Except I don't EVER plan on voting Dem if there's any Way around it. That's just me.
You're misreading her, Marek.
I reported him/her…. Obvious troll/heckler as evidenced by how many time he/she has posted the same absurd comment.
That doesn't make her a pedophile. That makes her someone who believes the parents should have the say in how they raise there kids.
Give that power over to the CPS? That's not gonna work.
Meanwhile for Donald Trump was the ONLY President in American history that more whites died under him than were born, and 90% of the counties that lost population in the 2020 historic "white DE-population" Census(1st one in 250 years to have that!) voted for him, with Red State life expectancy having grown to YEARS worse than the Blue States and the Wall Street Journal front page headline read "RURAL America is the NEW Inner City" under the orange man, I can tell you that 90%+ Americans, whether Left or Right, don't give two shakes about "bathroom" politics. MLK talked about poor whites and their families being starved by their political masters, i.e. they "eat Jim Crow"; well now many in this country "feast" upon Dr. Seuss's Green Eggs & Ham and hollow plastic Mr. Potatohead! At least for the original Irish famine, blighted potatoes were still real vegetative matter!
Type. Post. Think.
90% probably don't care about bathroom politics because they hadn't heard-a the girl that raped in one by what-i-call "penis wearing a dress." Same issue in women's prisons in CA, only 10 times worse. Can You imagine, THE OhioStateBrian? Seriously!
I may be an outlier here. If it's Biden/Trump in '24, I'll sit out a prez election for first time since '72. That's just me.
I'd love to vote for DeSantis but he is probably too busy in FL.
Thank you for another great article. I briefly went through this when my daughter announced one day that she had always been a boy. She was 11 years old. Thank God I had Ms Shrine’s book prior and I immediately knew it was false. I placed a safety app on her phone and I found awful things, from porn stories that the kids were passing around to a TikTok account that I had forbidden her to have. We took the phone away for months and pulled her off of all social media. Long story short, she improved almost instantly.
It’s social media. They are getting these kids through social media. I’m not judging any parent but I think that the Gen X parents like myself have no real idea how bad it is on these platforms and the awful things these kids are being fed. I tell every parent of a kid who doesn’t have a phone to put the safety app on immediately before they even get it into their possession.
Also during this time I looked for a therapist and found one who was not indoctrinated in this horror. They are out there but you have to ask. This therapist also told me that a parent called her and said they brought their daughter to a different therapist because of anxiety issues and that therapist kept talking about how she, the therapist, is gay. This father wanted to know if my therapist was going to do that, in which she replied that her own sexuality was her private matter and nothing to be discussed with a patient.
And one last. Another girl we knew was having gender issues and her therapist told her parents NOT to put a safety app in the phone because the parents need to trust that she’s not getting into things she shouldn’t be. Worst advice ever.
Really need to be careful with therapists. It’s hard to vet them. My daughter’s apparently told her that she (the therapist) is non-binary. How is that helpful? I guess they think it helps them relate to their patient but it’s inappropriate. I also sent this therapist a copy of Irreversible Damage. I hope she read it
the therapist is non-binary?
Maybe switch to a different therapist?
"It’s social media. They are getting these kids through social media. I’m not judging any parent but I think that the Gen X parents like myself have no real idea how bad it is on these platforms and the awful things these kids are being fed. I tell every parent of a kid who doesn’t have a phone to put the safety app on immediately before they even get it into their possession."
1000% !
Will you please share the name of the “safety app” you put on your daughter’s phone? Thank you.
It’s called Bark.
White male Baby Boomer Presidents: "Slick Willie" "Fun in the Oral Office" Bubba. Cocaine brain Dubya. Agent Orange Mango Mussolini. "Sleepy Joe" Biden.
For the majority of Americans, which is those born AFTER the mid-1980s, it's clear which President is by far the best in their lives in their minds. By far the most moral too.
I'm in my 40s; I was learning about the "facts of life" when my first real memories of Presidential politics was Clinton getting impeached for some very interesting cigar play that later we found out about Gingrich's revolting affairs.
Then again, teenage births peaked in America just before 1960(pre-birth control & the sexual revolution) at almost 100/1000 girls aged 15-19 to then it was still 62/1000 girls just after 1990, but now it's less than 18/1000 girls 15-19! Shocking! Abortions further(and ironically) are the lowest in our recorded history right now; only 1/3rd of their early 1980s peak! Young people of today are having less sex than ever before! Oh, and gay people are the ones getting married today from back in the day it was the closet(and non-closet) types packing the bathhouses!
The White House spokeswoman said, “Instead of focusing on critical kitchen table issues like the economy, COVID, or addressing the country’s mental health crisis, . . . .” What, exactly, is the transgender outbreak if not a mental health issue? I don’t mean that in a mean, pejorative way, just a simple statement of obvious (at least to me) fact.
It is a societal mental health issue where people in all institutions including Education gaslight ("affirm") the young who might otherwise get over it as teens together.
That is a perfect statement for what this is all about 💗
Psaki is a chronic liar, embarrassing even to the largely pro-Biden press corps, and usually has no idea what she's talking about, on any issue. It's small wonder she's leaving. Why does anyone listen to her or take her seriously?
This administration has not just Psaki but likely "intact" autogynophille Richard Levin as Assistant Health Secretary. Health!
Love these speaking truth to power satires from the Babylon Bee:
https://babylonbee.com/news/the-babylon-bees-man-of-the-year-is-rachel-levine
https://babylonbee.com/news/rachel-levine-is-100-woman-and-we-are-sorry-for-calling-her-a-man
She's not "leaving" - she's transferring to different propagandist position.
You know that she is going to work for MSNBC....I believe.
She is a WEF plant like so many (unfortunately) women in political and govt positions these days. Finland and New Zealand's Prime Ministers, the head of then EU etc. This is part of the WEF agenda with a history in Eugenics. Whitney Webbs website has an excellent long article on the roots and funding of the WEF. It provides the why and how behind gender reassignment.
Thank You. If You had time and inclination, can You provide link? No biggie.
Dr. McHugh, former psychiatrist in chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital was on top of this some time ago:
https://couragerc.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/TransgenderSurgery.pdf
And
"Transgender Surgery Isn't the Solution
A drastic physical change doesn't address underlying psycho-social troubles.
By Paul McHugh
Updated May 13, 2016"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120
Gender = Sex. Our children should not be getting indoctrinated at school into a cult religion around Gender Identity with sparkly Gender Unicorns and such. It's total grooming.
And, how is it that we are about to have a Supreme Court Justice who does not know what a woman is because she is not a biologist?
Perhaps we should get rid of this silly religious word "transgender" and go back to "transexual" (a confused person in need of compassion and real help).
I agree that we should revert to reality! If you read Abigail’s book, you will learn the cult’s definitions of all their terms. Years ago there were “transvestites,” or “cross-dressers.” There have always been “homosexuals,” to my understandng. Very rarely (Christine Jorgenson--1954?) someone had sex-change operation. While homosexuality has, to my understand, always existed as a minority of the population, it was never a cult. All these other labels are creations in a cult movement that has me very frightened for our younger generations. We have to bear in mind that people in a cult cannot see they are in it! Psaki (as with all true believers) is not evil--she has no idea that her brain has been kidnapped.
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Hi, Yes Abigail's book is wonderful. People in a cult don't know they are in a cult. And, many people just go along with pronouns & such because they don't know better. I personally think you are being a too charitable regarding Psaki though... I am skeptical that her brain has been captured so much as she tows any line that works for her career... I was really shocked during the election that no one in the media even discussed how Biden lied and plagiarized during his failed 1988 presidential campaign. In 1988 the newscasters all thought he was finished. And, I don't even care if we have Reps or Dems if we can get out of this! But, it does look like the Dem party has sold it's soul to Gender Identity Ideology and Groomers.
Perhaps I am too charitable, but I will always give people the benefit of the doubt where I have not personally observed reason to do otherwise. I have never seen Psaki operating on her own; only as spokesperson for the WH. But, rest assured I have heard enough lies from that administration to gag a maggot. All admins lie or “fib” or exaggerate. This one bald-faced fabricates more than any I’ve witnessed in my lifetime, and has done so since the inaugural speech (just as he did during the campaign). I have no respect Biden or Harris. Neither are competent, in my view.
On Psaki, I can say I really do not like her condescending tone but am not surprised at the spin and fabrications. How anyone could last this long covering for Biden… well, suffice to say, it’s truly a feat. There is no doubt she’s looking out for HER future, not his, though.
I loved your prescription. Compassion and even respect. But giving into psychosis and confusion is madness, itself. As you point out, these people need help, not Frankenstein medical experiments. You've earned your sobriquet.
:-)
Excellent point-- I will start today.
Its like saying I don't know what Black is to her because I am not Black. Incredible.
ugh... and she has a record of going easy on pedophiles.
MsHugh's 2 pages above from 2014 are very worth reading in their entirety, but I want to call out one paragraph:
"Another subgroup consists of young men and women susceptible to suggestion from "everything is normal" sex education, amplified by Internet chat groups. These are the transgender subjects most like anorexia nervosa patients: They become persuaded that seeking a drastic physical change will banish their psycho-social problems. "Diversity" counselors in their schools, rather like cult leaders, may encourage these young people to distance themselves from their families and offer advice on rebutting arguments against having transgender surgery. Treatments here must begin with removing the young person from the suggestive environment and offering a counter-message in family therapy"
This last bit is nearly impossible to do in our country right now - between having the message everywhere and efforts to outlaw such therapy as "conversion therapy".
Every word. I honestly don't care if Ms. Shrier doesn't publish another article; I will continue to pay this subscription in perpetuity. There are so few people who are putting our children first and this author has done so with integrity. Thank you!
Wow, my prayers for all of the parents going through this madness right now.
Psaki is a vile spokesperson for a vile administration intent on cultural destruction of our children.
Was not aware. Can you send me some links? Thanks.
Sounds like she’s telling CPS to f’ck off. Parental responsibility, good or bad is on them.
Reading these posts is tough because I’m dealing with a 12 year old daughter who has said they are a he and goes by a new name. My wife is a liberal, feminist and is pro affirming and I’m conservative and very much against an affirming process. The school refers to our child by their preferred pronoun. In January my wife signed our daughter up for a gender clinic that I was opposed to but joined the meeting and put my foot down against any medical interventions with my daughter. My wife says she agrees with this and has said she won’t allow our child to medicate or have operations until they are 18. I basically forced my wife to read Abigail’s book but she says it’s antithesis to her beliefs. I also tried to get her to read the book The Abolition Of Sex because it was written by a self proclaimed democrat feminist (which is what my wife is) but she has not. The author of that book is labeled a TERF so they are seen as a transphobe and an enemy. My wife and I started seeing a Christian counselor for marriage therapy to help with better communication. The therapist has said they don’t have a lot of experience with trans-genderism, but their experience is with couples. She has also seen us together as a family and wants to also have us come in with each of the children separately. Like my wife and my daughter and me and my son. Hopefully this therapist doesn’t pull a 180 degree flip on me.
Oh so sorry for your plight. Not to criticize your wife but it boggles my mind how any feminist is on board with what seems to me as an assault on women. And I’m an old school end of the boomers feminist, but a reformed liberal because they have gone off the rails. Actually I’m probably also and old school liberal, not a crazy leftist. I haven’t voted for a D in a long time. The only way I would do it is if a D took a stand against this gender madness
My 15 year old daughter says she's a he now too. Check out genspect.org and Gender:A Wider Lens podcast. We need to all speak out when we can. This is a lonely place and the land mines are everywhere. Today I have to call our pediatrician to have an appointment regarding some headaches but, I have to talk to whoever answers the phone to let them know we aren't medicalizing and that we don't want blockers/hrt brought up during the appointment. and, we will not permit our child to be in a room alone with the doctor (bcs we trust no one)
I learned that lesson the hard way too. 5 Minutes alone with an otherwise normal seeming pediatrician and learned 6 months later he told my 16 year-old son to visit planned parenthood for hormones.
Do not leave your kids alone with doctors or counselors you haven't thoroughly vetted. Even then, may not be safe.
My heart goes out to you. I feel what you are doing is showing your love for your family.💗 Wonderful
Family counseling sounds promising. I wouldn't let the girl go to any 1-1 counseling with a Gender Affirming therapist. As for TERF, Biology is not Bigotry. :) I like Tired of Explaining Reality to Fools = TERF. This is my opinion but I think that having her dad quietly call her she/her and use her real name will mean a lot deep down even if she pushes back. Some say they are pushing back against their own reservations. You might take part in one of her interests, demonstrating that whatever it is it is cool for a girl to do and you can share in something unrelated to the Great Matter. Maintaining your relationship with her (and indicating you are not a true believer in Gender) is the most important thing.
Have you two read the article by Dr. Paul McHugh, former psychiatrist in chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital who was on top of this some time ago:
https://couragerc.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/TransgenderSurgery.pdf
And
"Transgender Surgery Isn't the Solution
A drastic physical change doesn't address underlying psycho-social troubles.
By Paul McHugh
Updated May 13, 2016"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120
There are a lot of good parent articles on Parents with Inconvenient Truths About Trans: PITT.substack.com where there is no fee for a subscription. Maybe some of them would help you or your wife? You can also post an article there.
There is a liberal feminist sexologist named Dr. Deborah Soh who wrote a book called "The End of Gender". Maybe you and your wife could read that one together? Dr. Soh wants young people to read it rather than academics so it is not at all dense reading. Good luck to you.
Thanks for the recommendation. I would definitely read it but convincing my wife to is probably unlikely to happen. She doesn’t like me trying to change her mind and ignores articles I send to her on the subject of gender. She says she doesn’t like me trying to change her mind on things because she says she does not want to change my mind on what I believe and I think very much angers her when I try to. I read The Abolition of Sex in an afternoon and tried get her to read it because I said it is very important. I also tried to entice her by saying it was written by a democrat liberal feminist. I stressed to her saying how important it was for her to read it but she basically refused to. It would take her less time than me to read it because she reads a lot. Again, thanks, but I don’t know if I will bring it up because it will likely just cause much stress. My wife believes that gender is a spectrum and maybe also a social construct. I didn’t know she believed these things until fairly recently. I think she thinks this is the progression of science and we are learning these things. We don’t talk about these hot button topics very much, other than in therapy because it causes a lot of stress at home.
Good luck to you. Maybe the gender craze will be revealed for what it is/have passed before your daughter ever self harms. There could be something in Dr. Soh's book for you to say to your daughter at just the right time - which might not be at age 12...
I appreciated the father’s letter on this subject. I’m not quite sure why we decided medical interventions were the best, “life saving” care for kids dealing with this.
As someone who has dealt with attempted suicide in my past (and in my siblings’ pasts as well as eating disorders, anxiety, and so forth), I’ve found that often the best “cure” for mental health problems is to just keep climbing over that mountain—not flatten it to make the hike easier.
That’s not to say there aren’t people out there who aren’t just happier living outside the traditional norms associated with their biological gender, but the person you are at 15 and the person you are at 30 are two different people. External factors shouldn’t be the things that “affirm” who you are whether it be tattoos or hormone treatments.
think teenage years are difficult for the teen and parent to maneuver, in additional to the rapid physical/psychological growth, change for the child becoming an adult, the parent-child relationship is also evolving.
thinking back, it can be a lonely time... and a time when the teen needs (craves) reassurance that their parent is still looking out for them / their best interests, even as peer pressure makes it not cool to verbalize this desire.
Agreed. I think this girl’s father took the right approach. That stability at home can be lifesaving.
Medical interventions, like the BS treatment of COVID, in any area is about one thing- money- period. These doctors don't care-- they are as inhumane as those who think such mutilation is "life saving"
what a beautiful letter how your book helped parents to strengthen their bond with their child and the resulting peace, happiness experienced.
As I read this I couldn't help recall the way party ideology infected all aspects of life in the former Soviet Union. Whether literature, art, drama, youth organizations, law, sports and, sadly, medicine, everything was corrupted and bent to the party's dogma and will. Probably not surprising that Psaki's ever-changing hair color remains red, as she is the perfect spokesperson for the leftist insanity that, like a bacillus, has infected most of the Democrat Party. Not least of which is the gender nonsense that passes for "medicine" under these totalitarian lunatics. Even up to less than a decade ago, gender dysphoria was viewed as a psychiatric disorder. Now the "prescribed treatment" is a cocktail of bizarre chemicals leading to a Frankenstein surgery that seldom if ever works. And they call this medical "progress?" What's next - going back to blood letting as "medical science?" Clearly under the Sovietization of America by the Democrat Party, no perversion, no bizarre rite is to be criticized if the collective deems it sufficiently "woke." This is madness. Thanks, Abigail, for calling it out and continuing to tell the truth.
I'm afraid You've got the right of it, M. Bruce.
Thank you Abigail! Please please please start saying boys and girls? In recent weeks at least 4 detrans males have publicly written about their experiences. The concept of "pink pilling" through grooming taking place in forums on Reddit and Discord is real. These are in particular very sensitive boys, often quite immature and on the spectrum, often gay and many times overwhelmed by the "toxic masculinity" they have been hearing about throughout their upbringing- and don't forget the pervasive internet porn. Many of them see opting out of manhood as necessary to ensure they do not fit this narrative. Please don't forget our sons! They also are being swept up in this! Thank you.
My hunch is that many girls, too, are affected by internet portrayals of sex in porn. I imagine it would be pretty scary if they see some of the violent stuff, and what a relief it would be to think, "Oh, I'm a boy! I won't have to be XXX'd etc."
Sons too! 20% are boys in this huge huge explosion of cases!
Again, she does nothing of the sort.